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01-08-2024 20:25

Miguel Ãngel Ribes Miguel Ángel Ribes

Good afternoon This Ombrophila was growing in a v

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Lothar Krieglsteiner Lothar Krieglsteiner

in the Alps I repeatedly found Brunnipila-specimen

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Lothar Krieglsteiner Lothar Krieglsteiner

.. 23.6.24, thermophilous submediterranean habitat

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B Shelbourne B Shelbourne

Is it possible to identify Ascocoryne sarcoides in

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Ubaldo Marulli

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Thomas Læssøe

https://svampe.databasen.org/observations/10114974

01-08-2024 22:25

Marek Capoun Marek Capoun

Hello, I need help with this Peziza s.l. and at th

02-08-2024 10:07

Lothar Krieglsteiner Lothar Krieglsteiner

.. found in the French Alps, 5.7.24, 1455 m NN, tw

02-08-2024 14:30

Lothar Krieglsteiner Lothar Krieglsteiner

French Alps, 6.7.24. The asci and some gel around

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Iodophanus hyperboreus?
Lothar Krieglsteiner, 02-08-2024 10:07
Lothar Krieglsteiner.. found in the French Alps, 5.7.24, 1455 m NN, two quite large apothecia (about 2-3 mm) with beautiful rosy-pink tint growing on a very strongly decayed and water-soaked piece of wood lying in a fountain situation between mosses like Cratoneuron commutatum and Philonotis fontana, wet situation (in the surrounding nearly every habitat was fully dried out). The nitrogen-level was low which is indicated already by the mosses, and  by spermatophytes (e.g. Parnassia palustris, Pinguicula vulgaris not far away).
The sea level is perhaps a bit low, but I think I. hyperboreus should be a better choice than I. testaceus. I measured the spores with about 19-21/11,5-13 µm. My cotton blue stain was not very good working, maybe because of the very wet water-soaked material. The spores were finely warty . The paraphyses are perhaps distinctive, too - they are swollen and strongly guttulate. 
Can I. hyperboreus be confirmed or am I fully on a wrong road?
Best regards, Lothar
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Nicolas VAN VOOREN, 02-08-2024 15:45
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Re : Iodophanus hyperboreus?
Why not simply I. carneus? It usually grows on dungs, but on a decaying substrate it might be possible...
To my knowledge, I. hyperboreus is terrestrial and has smaller ascospores.
Lothar Krieglsteiner, 02-08-2024 15:55
Lothar Krieglsteiner
Re : Iodophanus hyperboreus?
Hello Nicolas,

thanks for your opinion.
But ....

Medardi & al. 2006 for his new species hyperboreus: Sp 18-23/10-12 µm
In his key he gives for I. carneus measures of 17-19/10-11,5 and for I. testaceus 17,5-22,5/10,5-14,5

In Prokhorov 1997 I find for I. carneus 15-20/10-12, and for I. testaceus 18-22,5/12-13,5

My measures were (I repeat): 19-21/11,5-13
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Wood (stronly decayed) or not wood is in my eyes less important than the nitrogen situation (carenus and testaceus are known as strong nitrophytes, and so I always found them before), I. hyperboreus grows at wet (and cold - ... yes) that are nitrogen-poor. I think the ecology is more like my find than that of carneus/testaceus.

Best regards, Lothar