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24-04-2024 21:54

éric ROMERO éric ROMERO

Bonjour, J'ai trouvé ce Lasiobolus sur laissées

23-04-2024 15:18

Lothar Krieglsteiner Lothar Krieglsteiner

... but likely a basidiomycete. I hope it is o.k.

23-04-2024 13:17

Edouard Evangelisti Edouard Evangelisti

Bonjour à tous, Je viens de récolter ce que je

23-04-2024 21:49

Ethan Crenson

Hello all, A friend recently found this orange as

22-04-2024 11:52

Zuzana Sochorová (Egertová) Zuzana Sochorová (Egertová)

Hello,I made a loan of a collection of Microstoma

11-01-2022 16:36

Jason Karakehian Jason Karakehian

Hi does anyone have a digital copy of Raitviir A (

22-04-2024 08:54

Rafael Cabral

Bonjour à toutes et tous, Quelqu'un pourrait-il

22-04-2024 20:38

Miguel Ãngel Ribes Miguel Ángel Ribes

Good afternoon.Does anyone know this anamorph?It g

21-04-2024 14:29

B Shelbourne B Shelbourne

• Genus Brunnipila: Distinct macro and habitat,

19-04-2024 14:28

B Shelbourne B Shelbourne

Cudoniella tenuispora: Distinctive macro and habit

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White-black pyrenos
Juuso Äikäs, 06-08-2019 23:57
These were growing on pieces of wood on the bottom of a dry stream. The microscopy looks interesting to me, I haven't seen anything like this before. Maybe someone knows what these are?
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Andrew N. Miller, 07-08-2019 00:32
Juuso Äikäs, 07-08-2019 08:23
Re : White-black pyrenos
Thanks!
Hans-Otto Baral, 07-08-2019 09:47
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : White-black pyrenos
Hi Andrew and Juuso

I would have thought L. ovina (L. lanuginosa I do not know). What are the differences? You speak of the L. lanuginosa complex which is genetically so close to L. ovina that it might be difficult by morphology alone to distinguish it, but why are you sure here? 

Zotto
Andrew N. Miller, 07-08-2019 14:26
Andrew N. Miller
Re : White-black pyrenos
Zotto,
   
    I am sure because I am the World expert on this group...ha!  The tomentum is tight in L. ovina, but loose and can envelop multiple ascomata in L. lanuginosa.  Ascospores in L. ovina have short, awl-like appendages vs. long, lash-like appendages in L. lanuginosa.

Cheers,
Andy
Ethan Crenson, 07-08-2019 15:27
Re : White-black pyrenos
Thank you this is very helpful!  Looking back through some collections that I labeled L. ovina, I found this image.  The tomentum appears "tight", but the fruiting bodies are in some cases convergent, so that the tomentum appears to envelope multiple ascomata--or at least it could be construed that way. Which species would you say this is?
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Hans-Otto Baral, 07-08-2019 16:30
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : White-black pyrenos
o.k., thanks! But the appendages are invisible on the present photos. And how dense the tomentom here is?

Isn't it that Breitenbach & Kränzlin have L. lanuginosa then?

Did you ever see in my folder ovina? I have there awl-like appendages in HB 7942. In a sample by F. Schumm 16.IX.2012 the appendages are invisible (dead state), but the tomentum covers several perithecia.
Andrew N. Miller, 08-08-2019 15:40
Andrew N. Miller
Re : White-black pyrenos
Ethan, I would name this L. lanuginosa, but look for lash-like appendages on the ascospores to confirm.

Andy
Andrew N. Miller, 08-08-2019 15:52
Andrew N. Miller
Re : White-black pyrenos
Zotto,

  The lash-like appendages on the ascospores are not obvious in these photos, but can be seen by the well-trained eye... ;o)

   Breitenbach & Kränzlin correctly show L. ovina with tight, bright white tomentum and spores with short, awl-like appendages.

  No, never saw it.

Cheers,
Andy

Hans-Otto Baral, 08-08-2019 16:02
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : White-black pyrenos
Thanks!
Here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5SeyOEkxxZhYVZub0N1aGY5YTg
Go to 8a Sordariales,  -> Lasiosphaeriaceae ....
Andrew N. Miller, 08-08-2019 16:37
Andrew N. Miller
Re : White-black pyrenos
Thanks!  I see the awl-like appendages in HB 7942 (L. ovina), but there appears to be long, lash-like appendages in F. Schumm 16.IX.2012 (L. lanuginosa).

Cheers,
Andy
Hans-Otto Baral, 08-08-2019 16:43
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : White-black pyrenos
Yes indeed, it seems so! I would like to see L. lanuginosa in the living state. It seems the appendage is about of double length than L. ovina.
Andrew N. Miller, 08-08-2019 16:46
Andrew N. Miller
Re : White-black pyrenos
Yes, correct.

Andy