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paper-request ascobolus
DirkW, 27-07-2019 13:35
DirkWsalut a tous,

anybody with

Paulsen M.D., Dissing H. 1979. The genus Ascobolus in Denmark. Botanisk Tidsskrift, 74 (2-3): 67-78

on hard disk? would be great, if someone could send me the paper. i guess i have ascobolus hansenii here.
merci beaucoup/thank you people!

dirk
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Viktorie Halasu, 27-07-2019 15:23
Viktorie Halasu
Re : paper-request ascobolus
Hello,
check your mailbox.
Viktorie
Thorben Hülsewig, 27-07-2019 15:36
Re : paper-request ascobolus
Hi there,

@Viktorie:
Can you send it to me too ?
Thanks in advance

@Dirk:
Ich hatte letztes Jahr auch einen Fund von Ascobolus hansenii gemacht und denke dein Fund (vorausgesetzt die Sporenmaße passt) könnte auch einer sein.
Hier ist der Link dazu und im Thread ist auch der Link zu Ralfs Fund von 2017.
https://www.pilzforum.eu/board/thread/40740-ascobolus-hansenii-am-wegesrand/?highlight=ascobolus%20han

best regards,
Thorben
Michel Delpont, 27-07-2019 20:21
Michel Delpont
Re : paper-request ascobolus
Hello Viktorie.

I only have the key of these authors, could I have the complete article; thanks in advance!


Michel.

DirkW, 27-07-2019 23:06
DirkW
Re : paper-request ascobolus
merci viktorie!!
DirkW, 27-07-2019 23:24
DirkW
Re : paper-request ascobolus
hi thorben!

thats really interesting! these two nrw-collections have been the first records for germany, right? my spore-measures are 19-22 x 9,5-11 (with ornamentation). but some things are confusing me: in the papers of dissing 1979 and van brummelen 1980 the apothezias are described as very small, only up to 1-1,5 mm (same in the record of ralf!). but the apos in our collections are quite big, 3-5(7)mm, and on soil! the record of dissing was on bird-dung if i got it right, ralf also on dung, van brummelen has been on wood ... everything very confusing.
the history of warted ascobolus-taxa even more: if we look in van brummelen-monography p. 137, we see under a. denudatus in figure 41g exactly our spore-ornamentation and that of the new described a. hansenii. it belongs to the holotype of the former a. pani Velenovsky. so, my suggestion would be that a. hansenii is possibly the former a. pani and that the latter has priority! i will look for the original description ...

two big questions remain:
1. why did van brummelen included such big-wartet taxa as a. pani and a. angulispora under the concept of a. denudatus?
2. why did dissing not even mention a. pani in his new description  of a. hansenii? seems not very serious ...

best

dirk
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DirkW, 28-07-2019 01:29
DirkW
Re : paper-request ascobolus
meanwhile i got the original-description of a. pani from viktorie (thank you!).
it seems not unlikely that a. hansenii is a. pani ... (nr. 41)
Yulia Lytvynenko, 28-07-2019 14:19
Yulia Lytvynenko
Re : paper-request ascobolus
Dear Viktorie,

it would be great to receive this paper too.


Thanks in advance.


Yulia