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16-02-2019 17:02

Per Marstad Per Marstad

I found this on desiduous wood, in Norway.Diameter

15-02-2019 20:44

Edvin Johannesen Edvin Johannesen

Hi! These black, semi-immersed/erumpent apothecio

16-02-2019 11:02

Riet van Oosten Riet van Oosten

Hello, Found by a mushroomfriend on dead stem of

15-02-2019 20:32

BERNARD CLESSE BERNARD CLESSE

Pouvez-vous m'aider à identifier ce Rutstroemia (

11-02-2019 12:32

Stephen Mifsud Stephen Mifsud

Can this be identified from the macro-photos alone

15-02-2019 11:03

Edvin Johannesen Edvin Johannesen

Hello! Can anyone tell me how to distinguish Nect

12-02-2019 15:49

Martzuku Eleni

In decaying leaves of castanea and olive tree and

14-02-2019 22:15

Salvador Tello

Hola.Este hongo lo recogí en agosto del 2018 en S

14-02-2019 22:32

Ethan Crenson

I found these minute black apothecioid ascos on ba

14-02-2019 21:00

Patrice TANCHAUD

Bonsoir, sur cône d'épicéa. Apothécie 250 µm

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Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Jan Knuiman, 01-07-2018 16:33
Hello,

These discs (max.diameter 1 mm) were found on excrements of Galloway cattle. No hairs on margin or flanks. Spores showed no ornamentation in cotton blue / lactic acid. Free spores mounted in tap water measured 15.0-18.0 x 7.4-8.9 µm. Paraphyses with yellow guttuli and maximum width at the top of 5 µm. Textura of the excipulum consisting of large more or less globose to angular cells. 

Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?

Jan
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Jan Knuiman, 02-07-2018 12:41
Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Herweith I add an extra picture showing some linear striation on the spores.

Jan
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Peter Püwert, 02-07-2018 14:10
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Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hi Jan,

in my opinion the paraphyses for Ch. elaphorum are too slim. I think, one can look at Ch. theleboloides. At some collections of Cheilymenia the hairs are very difficult to find.

Greetings Peter.
Jan Knuiman, 02-07-2018 17:22
Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hello Peter, 

Thanks for your reply! I made five extra preparations and found four hairs in total! Very difficult to find indeed! The hairs varied in length between 65 and 305 µm. 

Does this confirm C. theleboloides?

Jan
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Peter Püwert, 04-07-2018 09:36
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Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hi Jan,

after hairs of Cheilymenia don't look in my opinion. Do you have the world monograph of MORAVEC (2005) about this genus ?

Greetings Peter.
Jan Knuiman, 04-07-2018 11:15
Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hello Peter,

Unfortunately, I don't have the 2005 monograph, but do have access to the Mycotaxon 38, 1990 paper of Moravec. In that paper Moravec describes the hairs of C. theleboloides as: "although the latter possesses not only hyaline hyphoid hairs with a bulbous base, but also yellowish acuminate hairs with "germs" of roots. The latter consist usually of a bifurcate base of bulbous "primitive germs of roots". However, apothecia of many collections of C. theleboloides possess only hyphoid hairs and lack the acuminate yellowish hairs, or these hairs occur very rarely."

I've have searched the material once more and found two hairs of about 60 µm and similar to the ones already found, and one longer hairlike structure of about 300 µm (see pictures).

I agree with you that the illustrations on p. 463 of Moravec's paper suggest that the hairs should be septate and have a furcate base. These aspects are not visible in the hairs I've found. Could it be that the hairs do not belong to the specimen found? Or are there other options for the combination of characteristics of this specimen?

Kind regards,
Jan

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Peter Püwert, 04-07-2018 12:03
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Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hi Jan,
the hair do not belong in my opinion to the mushroom, likely of vegetable origin.

I try to send you the monograph.

Greetings Peter.
Jan Knuiman, 04-07-2018 12:39
Re : Could this be Cheilymenia granulata var. elaphorum?
Hi Peter,

It would be fine, if you could send me the monograph! So, you still think C. theleboloides is the best option for this mushroom?

Kind regards,
Jan