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Patrice TANCHAUD,
11-09-2016 10:38
récolte sur sol en tourbière, parmi les feuilles et les débris herbacés pourrissants. Apothécies 2-7 mm. Spores 15-20 x 3,5-4,5 µm.
Merci d'avance pour vos pistes.
Patrice
Doc2-0008.pdf
Hans-Otto Baral,
11-09-2016 10:51
Re : Asco blanc tourbière
Hi Patrice
ths requires more infos. Apothecia gelatinized or not? Asci in Lugol, apical ring shape too indistinct. Living paraphyses?
Zotto
ths requires more infos. Apothecia gelatinized or not? Asci in Lugol, apical ring shape too indistinct. Living paraphyses?
Zotto
Patrice TANCHAUD,
11-09-2016 13:45
Re : Asco blanc tourbière
I think Apothecia is not gelatinized. Here is more informations, apical ring is very rarely blue and if it is blue, it is not best than in photo.
Thanks Zotto.
Thanks Zotto.
Hans-Otto Baral,
11-09-2016 21:02
Re : Asco blanc tourbière
Still a mystery. Looks inamyloid, does it? Can you send me this by mail in higher resolution, as jpg better than pdf?
The only idea I have is a Pezoloma. I must look if it fits to one of them.
The only idea I have is a Pezoloma. I must look if it fits to one of them.
Patrice TANCHAUD,
11-09-2016 21:07
Re : Asco blanc tourbière
No problem ! I send photos in private.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Hans-Otto Baral,
13-09-2016 07:45
Re : Asco blanc tourbière
Now the asci are clearly IKI blue, Calycina-like.
It seems to me very close to my Pezoloma cf. obstricta IKI- with spores about 12-20 µm length. You had one collection last year:
X.2015: P. Tanchaud: in Sphagnum bog, apothecia on small rotting stems. Apothecia cup-shaped, without stipe. Asci 105 µm, très faiblement amyloïdes. Spores 11-16 x 3,5-5 µm.
It has slightly smaller spores, but apparently also amyloid. isn#T this the same as presently? Can you tell me the location data of the two, is it the same tourbiere?
It seems to me very close to my Pezoloma cf. obstricta IKI- with spores about 12-20 µm length. You had one collection last year:
X.2015: P. Tanchaud: in Sphagnum bog, apothecia on small rotting stems. Apothecia cup-shaped, without stipe. Asci 105 µm, très faiblement amyloïdes. Spores 11-16 x 3,5-5 µm.
It has slightly smaller spores, but apparently also amyloid. isn#T this the same as presently? Can you tell me the location data of the two, is it the same tourbiere?
Patrice TANCHAUD,
14-09-2016 13:41
Re : Asco blanc tourbière
Yes Zotto, the same tourbiere. BRIGUEUIL (Charente), étang de Roudareix, 7 sept. 2016.
Here Pezoloma obstricta ? http://www.fauneflore-massifcentral.fr/mycologie/pezoloma-obstricta-p-karst-korf-1971.html
Patrice
Here Pezoloma obstricta ? http://www.fauneflore-massifcentral.fr/mycologie/pezoloma-obstricta-p-karst-korf-1971.html
Patrice
Michel Hairaud,
14-09-2016 14:07
Re : Asco blanc tourbière
Bonjour Patrice, Zotto at tous,
Jean Louis Jalla's find is the same I found last year on Betula leaves and it was commented here on this forum : http://www.ascofrance.fr/search_forum/36456
Patrice latest find's spores look really different , along with the lack of gelitinized texture.
Amitiés
Michel
Jean Louis Jalla's find is the same I found last year on Betula leaves and it was commented here on this forum : http://www.ascofrance.fr/search_forum/36456
Patrice latest find's spores look really different , along with the lack of gelitinized texture.
Amitiés
Michel
Hans-Otto Baral,
14-09-2016 15:29
Re : Asco blanc tourbière
Yes, surely two different species.
Patrice TANCHAUD,
14-09-2016 15:36
Re : Asco blanc tourbière
OK Michel and Zotto. Thanks !
Patrice
Patrice