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Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
Pavol Palo,
09-04-2016 18:40
I would need some literature or personal experience where I got the approximate dimensions of habitats C. maximus or G.fuliginosa . In an article available to me , they are mentioned only the location but the area is not mentioned there .
This information would help me to argue with the authorities to protect the site , which is threatened by logging in the area , and flood control . Our site has dimensions of about 1400 x 10-20 m along a mountain stream. There are hundreds of fruiting bodies of C. maximus often with clusters of fruiting bodies G.fuliginosa . I still believe that it could be an important European location but I miss the comparison :-(
thank you in advance for your help
Pavol
Hans-Otto Baral,
09-04-2016 21:27
Re : Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
Hi Pavol
I think that both species are rarities. G. fuliginosa I have seen a few times, but never C. maximus. The latter is present with 37 records in the British database:
http://www.fieldmycology.net/FRDBI/FRDBIrecord.asp?intGBNum=8324
Maybe it is more atlantic?
Zotto
I think that both species are rarities. G. fuliginosa I have seen a few times, but never C. maximus. The latter is present with 37 records in the British database:
http://www.fieldmycology.net/FRDBI/FRDBIrecord.asp?intGBNum=8324
Maybe it is more atlantic?
Zotto
Gernot Friebes,
09-04-2016 23:43
Re : Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
Hi Pavol,
here's a comprehensive article on Cryptomyces maximus in case you haven't seen it yet: http://www.funga.fi/Karstenia/Karstenia2012p59.pdf
Best wishes,
Gernot
here's a comprehensive article on Cryptomyces maximus in case you haven't seen it yet: http://www.funga.fi/Karstenia/Karstenia2012p59.pdf
Best wishes,
Gernot
Peter Püwert,
10-04-2016 00:17
Re : Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
Hi all,
I see this also as well as H.O.B.
Cryptomyces maximus is also not known to me, although Godronia fuliginosa is to be thought in the appropriate habitats actually always, at least here in the region. The species is spread montan, so from 600 height meters, appropriate air dampness offer the moorlands, damp meadows and waters nearness. Also finding from the literature already refers a certain (legal) protection on such habitats, here in Germany as a rule. We found Godronia fuliginosa up to now on Salix aurita, caprea, cinerea and repens from end of March till June.
Such areas are protection-worth not only because of the rare mushrooms. Unfortunately, special literature in addition is also not known to me, here literature helps, however, definitely generally about moorlands, damp areas etc.
Greetings Peter.
I see this also as well as H.O.B.
Cryptomyces maximus is also not known to me, although Godronia fuliginosa is to be thought in the appropriate habitats actually always, at least here in the region. The species is spread montan, so from 600 height meters, appropriate air dampness offer the moorlands, damp meadows and waters nearness. Also finding from the literature already refers a certain (legal) protection on such habitats, here in Germany as a rule. We found Godronia fuliginosa up to now on Salix aurita, caprea, cinerea and repens from end of March till June.
Such areas are protection-worth not only because of the rare mushrooms. Unfortunately, special literature in addition is also not known to me, here literature helps, however, definitely generally about moorlands, damp areas etc.
Greetings Peter.
Chris Yeates,
10-04-2016 20:05
Re : Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
Hi
I was the person who found the 1987 Dowrog Common collection (identified by Dave Minter). See http://www.britmycolsoc.org.uk/files/8613/0987/0223/PFSG%20Newsletter.pdf (pp. 4-5).
It was found on thin branches of Salix caprea which had been nibbled by ponies. Since then I have checked similar habitats in other parts of the UK - without success. I think you can definitely say it is a very rare fungus in this country.
best wishes
Chris
I was the person who found the 1987 Dowrog Common collection (identified by Dave Minter). See http://www.britmycolsoc.org.uk/files/8613/0987/0223/PFSG%20Newsletter.pdf (pp. 4-5).
It was found on thin branches of Salix caprea which had been nibbled by ponies. Since then I have checked similar habitats in other parts of the UK - without success. I think you can definitely say it is a very rare fungus in this country.
best wishes
Chris
Joey JTan,
10-04-2016 21:03
Re : Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
Assuming it is not just a case of people overlooking it, I wonder why C. maximus is rare? I am assuming the affected Salix host is quite common in the regions it has been collected in?
Chris Yeates,
10-04-2016 22:07
Re : Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
@Joey
Yes the 'sallows' Salix caprea and Salix cinerea are very common and widespread in the UK@ e.g.:
https://data.nbn.org.uk/Taxa/NBNSYS0000003868/Grid_Map
regards
Chris
Yes the 'sallows' Salix caprea and Salix cinerea are very common and widespread in the UK@ e.g.:
https://data.nbn.org.uk/Taxa/NBNSYS0000003868/Grid_Map
regards
Chris
Joey JTan,
10-04-2016 22:48
Re : Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
It would be interesting to culture or directly sequence cambium endophytes from these Salix spp. in areas where it has been more recently collected. I expect it exists as an endophyte, maybe it could be more readily detected in this manner; i.e.: is it actually rare or does it rarely sporulate?
Pavol Palo,
10-04-2016 22:53
Re : Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
Hi Zotto,
Thank you for the link to the British Finds. Our growth of C. maximus completely in a different habitat and also another kind of willow ( Salix eleagnos ) .
P.S. On your sites G. fuligonosa it was in several shrub willows over a larger area , or rather the lone individual bushes ?
Best wishes,
Pavol
Thank you for the link to the British Finds. Our growth of C. maximus completely in a different habitat and also another kind of willow ( Salix eleagnos ) .
P.S. On your sites G. fuligonosa it was in several shrub willows over a larger area , or rather the lone individual bushes ?
Best wishes,
Pavol
Pavol Palo,
10-04-2016 23:03
Re : Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
Hi Chris,
You do not know coincidence detailed British sites C. maximus ? I wonder if they grow in several shrub willows over a larger area or are just lonely bushes ?
Best wishes,
Pavol
You do not know coincidence detailed British sites C. maximus ? I wonder if they grow in several shrub willows over a larger area or are just lonely bushes ?
Best wishes,
Pavol
Pavol Palo,
10-04-2016 23:41
Re : Cryptomyces maximus or Godronia fuliginosa - the size of their habitat
Hi Peter,
Thank you for the information. In our country , unfortunately, in the National Park it is a superior timber the protection of habitats and therefore only a small part of the area has the status of non-intervention zones :-(
I would like to save what we can and therefore I have to argue the occurrence of rare species of fungi .
I know the three locations G. fuliginosa . They are each about 15 km distance at altitudes 600-900 m above sea level. Two of them are stands of willow trees in a mountain watercourse and the third is loosestrife in upland blanket bog . But one area of the mine is about 10 times larger than the other two combined.
Would you like to describe your site G. fuliginosa in terms of the number of shrubs that grow on willows and its area ?
Best wishes,
Pavol
Thank you for the information. In our country , unfortunately, in the National Park it is a superior timber the protection of habitats and therefore only a small part of the area has the status of non-intervention zones :-(
I would like to save what we can and therefore I have to argue the occurrence of rare species of fungi .
I know the three locations G. fuliginosa . They are each about 15 km distance at altitudes 600-900 m above sea level. Two of them are stands of willow trees in a mountain watercourse and the third is loosestrife in upland blanket bog . But one area of the mine is about 10 times larger than the other two combined.
Would you like to describe your site G. fuliginosa in terms of the number of shrubs that grow on willows and its area ?
Best wishes,
Pavol