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Danny Newman Danny Newman

indet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leavesMc

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indet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leaves
Danny Newman, 15-12-2025 07:09
Danny Newmanindet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leaves
McKee Branch Trail, Great Smoky Mountains National Park, Haywood County, North Carolina, USA
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/304109723

Collected during the 2025 Richard P. Korf Memorial North American Ascomycete Foray (aka "The Korf Foray), held at the Appalachian Highlands Science Learning Center in Purchase Knob, North Carolina.

ITS sequence available at iNat link

photo credits: Danny Newman & Connor Dooley
micrograph credits: Patrick A Verdier

Any and all ID help is greatly appreciated. Additional micrographs may be generated upon request

cross posted on Ascomycetes of the World at https://www.facebook.com/groups/ascomycetes/permalink/4143559412562898/
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Hans-Otto Baral, 15-12-2025 09:30
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : indet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leaves
This is difficult. One should check White's monograph of Rutstroemia.
Splendid photos! Did you measure the spores? Are some photos greyscale? The excipulum should be a prismatica-porrecta.
ITS Blast gives with 99% (4 nt & 1 gap) an Uncultured isolate (dfmo0688_132) from USA, North Carolina, isolated from mixed hardwood litter layer. - More distantly 96% R. punicae, 95.5% R. tiliacea, 95.3% R. echinophila, 94.5-95.5% R. firma
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Danny Newman, 15-12-2025 11:59
Danny Newman
Re : indet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leaves
Zotto,

As the only micrographs that exist (so far) are those shown here, no spores have yet been observed outside of their asci, which has stopped me from making any measurements.  I can plug these micrographs into Piximetre and measure the unejected spores, using the scale bars to calibrate, but I wonder how useful such measurements will be.  I defer to you entirely.

as for the coloration of the micrographs, some are indeed in greyscale, though what technique was used to render them, I'm not quite sure.  Patrick Verdier will know, as he produced the micrographs.  I've asked him to weigh in, and will post back with his remarks.

EDIT:  some preliminary spore measurements:

19.67 6.17
19.51 6.41
18.97 5.94
19.26 5.69
17.02 6.15
19.77 6.26
19.81 6.10
17.69 6.48
18.21 6.36
19.98 6.46

(17) 17.7 - 19.8 (20) × (5.7) 5.9 - 6.46 (6.5) µm
Q = (2.7) 2.8 - 3.2 (3.4) ; N = 10
Me = 19 × 6.2 µm ; Qe = 3.1
Hans-Otto Baral, 15-12-2025 14:53
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : indet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leaves
This is good, thanks. You can find out yourself if you have both in a preparation. Inside dead turgorless asci it makes no difference if the spore contents are the same. In turgescent asci they may be smalle due to pressure.
Danny Newman, 16-12-2025 01:08
Danny Newman
Re : indet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leaves
Zotto,

Is the information provided sufficient to assign this collection to the genus Rutstroemia, or are other genera still a possibility pending the details of the ectal excipulum?
Hans-Otto Baral, 16-12-2025 08:49
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : indet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leaves
It is clearly a Rutstroemia, at least since the R. tiliacea group was transferred from Encoelia there. But microscopically it is a typical Rutstroemia. Anyway, I would check the ectal excipulum, there is one species (R. bolaris) which has an angularis, but that species has very different spores.