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RICERCA PAZZA - SYSTEMA ASCOMYCETUM
Alessio Pierotti, 14-09-2013 16:00
Alessio PierottiFor a systematic work on the evolution of certain groups of ascomycetes, I search the articles 'Ouline of the Ascomycetes' publishedin  'System Ascomycetum'. Some friends of the forum have this magazine or these articles in PDF? I have volumes 1-4 ...
Grazie mille, Alessio

PS: in Italy, the magazine is stored only in Turin ... is a long and expensive trip for me
Hans-Otto Baral, 14-09-2013 16:06
Hans-Otto Baral
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Hi Alessio

I assume yoi find here what you are searching for:

http://archive.fieldmuseum.org/myconet/
Martin Bemmann, 14-09-2013 16:09
Martin Bemmann
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and here are the PDF-links: http://fieldmuseum.org/explore/myconet
Alessio Pierotti, 14-09-2013 18:02
Alessio Pierotti
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Ciao Martin. I thank you: I already knew the links that you have indicated. These links refer to Myconet, newspaper published after Systema Ascomycetum: I am interested in the latter, especially with regard to the placement of the genera Mazzantia, Phyllachora and Polystigma and the composition of the families Phyllachoraceae / Polystigmataceae in the various editions of the ''Ouline of the Ascomycetes'.
Ciao, Alessio
Martin Bemmann, 14-09-2013 19:41
Martin Bemmann
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Ciao Alessio,

there were 16 issues of "Systema Ascomycetum" between 1982 and 1998. I think you would increase the chance to recieve the papers you need dramatically when you name the proper titles.

Best regards

Martin
Alessio Pierotti, 14-09-2013 20:11
Alessio Pierotti
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Ciao Martin,
I'm not interested in all volumes. I am only interested in contributions 'Outlines of Ascomycota' to complete this table. All I need is the scan of the title (for bibliographic rifeirmento) and the page where we talk about the Phyllachorales ...now I try to hear a dear friend of Turin if he can help me!
Alessio

PS: The table is still missing the the Outline of 2010

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Martin Bemmann, 14-09-2013 21:43
Martin Bemmann
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Dear Alessio,

In the Myconet edition 13, 2007 the systematics for the Phyllachoraceae was announced for the next issue (14, 2010) that is online available also and covers those genera: http://fieldmuseum.org/sites/default/files/Fieldiana_2010_Myconet.pdf


Cheers

Martin
Martin Bemmann, 14-09-2013 21:45
Martin Bemmann
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I think I misunderstood you. You want to complete this (your?) table with data prior to 1999?

Regards

Martin
Mario Filippa, 14-09-2013 22:27
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Ciao Alessio,
a Torino dove? Università?
Alessio Pierotti, 15-09-2013 09:43
Alessio Pierotti
Re : RICERCA PAZZA - SYSTEMA ASCOMYCETUM
Si Mario...ora sento se Alfredo (Vizzini) ha voglia di darmi una mano: o magari colgo l'occasione per andarlo a trovare !
Alessio Pierotti, 15-09-2013 12:09
Alessio Pierotti
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Si Martin...I would like to summarize the evolution of the systematic order Phyllachorales.
In 1976, Barr, in its proposal for the classification of Ascomycetes, introduced an invalid mode (without diagnosis) the Phyllachorales for taxa "Parasitic, saprobic, or lichenized; perithecia or at times Widely opening and apothecia, asci oblong or clavate, thin-walled, usually narrow apical annulus; ascospores asymmetric, variable; asexual reproduction and phialidic Often coelomycetous where known. Families Phyllachoraceae, Physosporellaceae, Phacidiaceae, Porinaceae "(BARR, 1976a: 7).
In the same year Barr back to discuss the order, without even providing a diagnosis, in a contribution dedicated to the genre Buergnerula and Physosporellaceae. In this second work the Barr provides a key families traced to Phyllachorales and reduces the family Phyllachoraceae as synonymous to Melogrammataceae G. Winter (Barr. 1976b: 615).
In 1983, finally, the Barr makes valid the order Phyllachorales providing the following diagnosis: "Ascomata parasitici vel hemibiotrophici vel saprobici vel symbiotici globosa in substrato vel stromate vel thallo immerso, ostiola periphysibus; asci unitunicati, annuli apicali non profundi; paraphyses vel paraphyses apicales angusti vel lati; ascosporae hyalinae vel parum pigmentosae, continuae vel septatae. Familia typica: Phyllachoraceae Theissen & Sydow 1915 s. str." (Barr, 1983: 11). A part the recovery of the name Phyllachoraceae, this last contribution of Barr does not provide other information on the structure and composition of the order.
In the 'Outline of the Ascomycetes' of 1983 Erikson accepts the order Phyllachorales attributing the only family Phyllachoraceae and observing: "This order has usually called Polystigmatales Been" (Eriksson, 1983: 12). In 1984 Eriksson attaches to Phyllachoraceae 24 genus, plus two in the form dubitative: Apiosphaeria Höhn., Coccodiella Hara, Erikssonia Penz. & Sacc., Gibellina Pass., Glomerella Spauld. & H. Schrenk, Haloguignardia Cribb & J. W. Cribb, Isothea Fr., Lindauella Rehm, Neoflageoletia J. Reid & C. Booth, Ophiodothella (Henn.)Höhn., Phaeochorella Theiss. & Syd., Phycomelaina Kohlm., Phyllachora, Phylleutypa Petr., Phyllocrea Höhn., Polystigma DC, Pseudothiella Petr., Rehmniodothis, Schizochora Syd. & P. Syd., Sphaerodothis (Sacc. & P. Syd.)Shear, Stigmochora Theiss. & Syd., Telimena Racib., Telimenella Petr., Zimmermanniella Henn., (?)Lohwagia Petr. e (?)Petrakiella Syd (Eriksson, 1984: 37).
I would like to comment on how the order (polyphyletic!) is transformed to date.

REFERENCES CITED 
Barr M. E. 1976a. - Perspectives in the Ascomycotina. Memoirs of the New York Botanical Garden, 28 (1): 1-8 [April]
Barr M. E. 1976b. - Buergenerula and the Physosporellaceae. Mycologia, 68 (3): 611-621 [May-June]
Barr M. E. 1983. - The Ascomycete connection. Mycologia 75 (1): 1-13.
Eriksson O. 1983. - Outline of the Ascomycetes - 1983. Systema Ascomycetum, 2: 1-37.
Eriksson O. 1984. - Outline of the Ascomycetes - 1984. Systema Ascomycetum, 3: 1-72.


Herrera Emerson, 19-03-2014 15:30
Herrera Emerson
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Excuse me.... Is possible to say it what the caracteristics about the new classification the Ascomycete... the class, the order and family...

Thanks

Emerson