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unknown discomycete
Reza Shaian,
11-07-2011 05:43
Beñat Jeannerot,
11-07-2011 06:26

Re : unknown discomycete
Hi Reza,
It looks like a Microstoma and size of spores could correspond to macrosporum but whitish apothecia is a special characteristic. Bad exposition ?
I have the Harada article if you want.
Beñat
It looks like a Microstoma and size of spores could correspond to macrosporum but whitish apothecia is a special characteristic. Bad exposition ?
I have the Harada article if you want.
Beñat
Reza Shaian,
11-07-2011 07:02
Re : unknown discomycete
Hi Benat
Thanks for reply.
Yes, there are some differences with Microstoma floccosum. As you see, color of cups are truly white to cream, also hairs are just in margin of cup and NOT in all exterior surface.
Thanks for reply.
Yes, there are some differences with Microstoma floccosum. As you see, color of cups are truly white to cream, also hairs are just in margin of cup and NOT in all exterior surface.
Yannick Mourgues,
11-07-2011 10:41

Re : unknown discomycete
Hi.
Where did you found it ? When ?
Yannick
Where did you found it ? When ?
Yannick
Reza Shaian,
11-07-2011 10:58
Re : unknown discomycete
Hi
I found it from South Caucasus forests in North of Iran, in fall (september and October).
I found it from South Caucasus forests in North of Iran, in fall (september and October).
Reza Shaian,
11-07-2011 13:57
Re : unknown discomycete
It may be Boedijnopeziza insititia??
Beñat Jeannerot,
11-07-2011 22:27

Re : unknown discomycete
Hi Reza,
Sorry for hairs, I have seen with speed and no attention. Sorry.
Perhaps, you are right.
But it's certainly a species of Cookeina, C. insitiata, proved by phylogeny of this genus (see Weinstein & Pfister, 2002).
Your fungus seems to be very closed to this taxon.
Beñat
Sorry for hairs, I have seen with speed and no attention. Sorry.
Perhaps, you are right.
But it's certainly a species of Cookeina, C. insitiata, proved by phylogeny of this genus (see Weinstein & Pfister, 2002).
Your fungus seems to be very closed to this taxon.
Beñat
Guy Garcia,
11-07-2011 23:32
Re : unknown discomycete
Salut Benat,
Tu es sur que la combinaison Cookeina insititia existe ?
Par contre il existe bien :
Microstoma insititium (Berk. & M.A. Curtis) Boedijn 1951 Sydowia 5(3-6): 212
Tu es sur que la combinaison Cookeina insititia existe ?
Par contre il existe bien :
Microstoma insititium (Berk. & M.A. Curtis) Boedijn 1951 Sydowia 5(3-6): 212
Guy Garcia,
11-07-2011 23:49
Re : unknown discomycete
Tu as raison c'est une combinaison de Kunze !
Beñat Jeannerot,
11-07-2011 23:55
Beñat Jeannerot,
11-07-2011 23:56

Re : unknown discomycete
Oupss, tu as répondu entre temps, désolé.
Beñat
Beñat
Reza Shaian,
12-07-2011 05:57
Re : unknown discomycete
Hi Benat and Garcia
In monograph of Cookenia (Iturriaga and Pfister 2006), there is Cookenia insititia (Berk. & M.A. Curtis) Kuntze, but in Index of fungi and Mycobank, we cannot see it !!! and just there is Boedijnopeziza insititia (Berk. & M.A. Curtis) S. Ito & S. Imai 1937 as valid taxon.
In monograph of Cookenia (Iturriaga and Pfister 2006), there is Cookenia insititia (Berk. & M.A. Curtis) Kuntze, but in Index of fungi and Mycobank, we cannot see it !!! and just there is Boedijnopeziza insititia (Berk. & M.A. Curtis) S. Ito & S. Imai 1937 as valid taxon.
?
Guy Garcia,
12-07-2011 08:03
Re : unknown discomycete
De nombreuses combinaisons réalisées par Kunze dans son "Revisio generum platarum..." (1891-1898) sont encore absentes de l'Index of Fungi.
Les ouvrages de Kunze sont disponibles sur le net.
Amitiés, Guy
Reza Shaian,
12-07-2011 10:48
Re : unknown discomycete
Taxonomical position of Cookenia insititia / Boedijnopezizeae insititia is ambiguous.
But, is my fungus C. insititia? I read species descriptions, but I feel some differences (such as spore size).
But, is my fungus C. insititia? I read species descriptions, but I feel some differences (such as spore size).