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23-04-2024 15:18

Lothar Krieglsteiner Lothar Krieglsteiner

... but likely a basidiomycete. I hope it is o.k.

22-04-2024 11:52

Zuzana Sochorová (Egertová) Zuzana Sochorová (Egertová)

Hello,I made a loan of a collection of Microstoma

23-04-2024 13:17

Edouard Evangelisti Edouard Evangelisti

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11-01-2022 16:36

Jason Karakehian Jason Karakehian

Hi does anyone have a digital copy of Raitviir A (

22-04-2024 08:54

Rafael Cabral

Bonjour à toutes et tous, Quelqu'un pourrait-il

22-04-2024 20:38

Miguel Ãngel Ribes Miguel Ángel Ribes

Good afternoon.Does anyone know this anamorph?It g

21-04-2024 14:29

B Shelbourne B Shelbourne

• Genus Brunnipila: Distinct macro and habitat,

19-04-2024 14:28

B Shelbourne B Shelbourne

Cudoniella tenuispora: Distinctive macro and habit

20-04-2024 16:02

Michel Hairaud Michel Hairaud

Bonjour,On me fait part, pour diffusion d une list

20-04-2024 09:56

Josep Torres Josep Torres

Hello.A few apothecia collected on Sunday, April 7

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Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
Luc Bailly, 29-05-2010 21:35
Luc BaillyEn petits groupes sur une tige morte de Cirsium palustre, en compagnie de Leptosphaeria macrospora.
Apothécie sessile, -> 1-1.5 mm de diamètre, brun noirâtre extérieurement avec une marge poilue plus claire; hyménium gris foncé, tirant sur le bleuté, parfois le brunâtre.

Excip. ectal text. glob. à cellules brun foncé. Poils de la marge brunâtres, septés, 58-63 x4-5 µ.
Asques 8-sp, à crochets; spores bisériées. IKI bleu.
Spores hyalines, non septées, avec parfois quelques petites guttules, 6.5-10 x 1.5-2 µ.
Paraphyses réfringentes, cylindriques ou faiblement clavées au sommet, x 2.5-4 µ, ne réagissant pas dans le KOH.

J'avais émis l'hypothèse de Pyrenopeziza revincta. Votre avis?

Amitiés - LUC.
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Luc Bailly, 29-05-2010 21:36
Luc Bailly
Re:Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
Certaines fructifications sont plus nettement poilues.
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Luc Bailly, 29-05-2010 21:37
Luc Bailly
Re:Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
Asque
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Luc Bailly, 29-05-2010 21:37
Luc Bailly
Re:Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
Spores
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Luc Bailly, 29-05-2010 21:38
Luc Bailly
Re:Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
Paraphyses
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Luc Bailly, 29-05-2010 21:39
Luc Bailly
Re:Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
Poils de la marge.
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Hans-Otto Baral, 29-05-2010 22:17
Hans-Otto Baral
Re:Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
As far as I can see the paraphyses and hairs do not contain refringent vacuoles. Also the macro reminds me of a Pyrenopeziza rather than a Mollisia. P. revincta is a Mollisia, with VBs that react yellow in KOH.

Pyrenopeziza spec.

Zotto
Luc Bailly, 29-05-2010 23:12
Luc Bailly
Re:Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
Hm. I will check the refs I have about the Pyrenopeziza. By the way, I found something very similar from the sphagnum bog of Arcon in what I took back home from France. And also on Cirsium palustre.
Andreas Gminder, 08-06-2010 14:13
Andreas Gminder
Re:Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
Hello,

in my opinion this is the very common Pyrenopeziza escharodes s.l. (possibly still a collective species). Mollisia revincta never has such elongate cells, but in the opposite distinctly round cells, even the marginal cells are nearly round. NANNFELDT did describe some of the taxa around Mollisia atrata (which is Pyrenopeziza escharodes in my opinion), so may be you find something there.

best regards,
Andreas
Hans-Otto Baral, 08-06-2010 16:36
Hans-Otto Baral
Re:Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
Hi Andreas

I am surprized about your opinion on P. escharodes. I thought this is a species typically on Rubus, with a strongly white-fringed margin, and erumpent, see also Breitenbach pl. 281.

P. atrata is smooth at the margin and superficial. I attach both, the upper from Chemnitz on Rubus idaeus, the lower from Mecklenburger Seenplatte, on Epilobium hirsutum.

Of course, the question of the identity of the types may be obscure.

Zotto
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Luc Bailly, 08-06-2010 21:10
Luc Bailly
Re:Dermateaceae s/ Cirsium palustre
Hello Andreas, hello Zotto,

Thanks for your explanations. Do you have the complete ref for Nannfeldt's paper, so I could check if it's available on Cyberliber?

And indeed, Zotto, the upper photo is much closer to what I found. Although I didn't notice my sample on Cirsium might be erumpant.

Cheers - LUC.