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Byssonectria species
David Kelly,
05-02-2013 14:00
I found this small orange Ascomycete in a forest in England, on a well used Deer trail. It was growing on the ground amongst leaf litter and Pine needles in February. I'm sure that it is a Byssonectria but I would appreciate any comments about species as some of the information I have read is rather contradictory - especially relating to B. terrestris/B. fusispora.
Many thanks.
David Kelly
Ibai Olariaga Ibarguren,
05-02-2013 14:14
Re : Byssonectria species
Hello,
Maybe you can have a look in Olariaga & Hansen (2011). New and noteworthy records of Pezizomycetes in Sweden and the Nordic countries?. Karstenia 51:1-16.
I can send you the paper privately if you don´t have access to it. We found that the spore guttulation and the content of the paraphyses alive might have significance for species delimitation. It would therefore be helpful if you could upload microphotos in living state. From what I see, your collection looks more like B. terrestris than B. fusispora in my opinion, though I don´t see well the subiculum, but that can be variable according to Pfister and Yao & Spooner.
Cheers,
Ibai.
David Kelly,
05-02-2013 14:23
Re : Byssonectria species
Hello Lbai
many thanks for the reply. All of the photos are of fresh material. The spore photo was a fresh spore in water so I would say it was in "living state" I can take a photo of the paraphyses and asci in water if that would be helpful.
I would really like to see "New and noteworthy records of Pezizomycetes in Sweden and the Nordic countries" I'll send you a message.
David
many thanks for the reply. All of the photos are of fresh material. The spore photo was a fresh spore in water so I would say it was in "living state" I can take a photo of the paraphyses and asci in water if that would be helpful.
I would really like to see "New and noteworthy records of Pezizomycetes in Sweden and the Nordic countries" I'll send you a message.
David
Enrique Rubio,
05-02-2013 14:25
Re : Byssonectria species
¿Podrías por favor enviármelo a mí también?
Muchas gracias por adelantado
Saludos
Emnrique
Muchas gracias por adelantado
Saludos
Emnrique
Björn Wergen,
05-02-2013 15:04
Re : Byssonectria species
Hi Ibai,
I would be glad if you can send it to me too :))
thanks and regards,
björn
I would be glad if you can send it to me too :))
thanks and regards,
björn
Chris Yeates,
05-02-2013 15:11
Re : Byssonectria species
Hello Ibai
can I join the queue too please?
eskerrik asko
Chris
can I join the queue too please?
eskerrik asko
Chris
Ibai Olariaga Ibarguren,
05-02-2013 15:12
Re : Byssonectria species
Hello again,
I sent the paper to all of you!
Sorry David, I missed the last photo with the measures. Yes, maybe to see the paraphyses in water would be helpful to compare it to the living paraphyses photos of the paper.
The paraphyses of your collection are bent as in the collection we assigned to B. terrestris, and the width of the spores also matches our measures for B. terrestris (broader than in our B. fusispora collection).
Cheers,
Ibai.
Cheers,
Ibai.
Ibai Olariaga Ibarguren,
05-02-2013 15:14
Re : Byssonectria species
Sure Chris!
I will send you the paper too.
Eskerrak zuri! :-)
Ibai.
David Kelly,
05-02-2013 15:27
Re : Byssonectria species
Hello
here are photos in water. They are quite mature now so much softer and not so easy to section.
David
here are photos in water. They are quite mature now so much softer and not so easy to section.
David
Gernot Friebes,
05-02-2013 15:46
Re : Byssonectria species
I'd be very interested in that paper as well. :)
Thank you!
Gernot
Thank you!
Gernot
Raúl Tena Lahoz,
05-02-2013 16:00
Re : Byssonectria species
Hola Ibai
Si no es mucha molestía, ¿me lo podrías enviar también?
Gracias y un saludo,
Raúl
Si no es mucha molestía, ¿me lo podrías enviar también?
Gracias y un saludo,
Raúl
Rubén Martínez-Gil,
05-02-2013 22:47
Re : Byssonectria species
Hola Ibai.
Si todavía estoy a tiempo, ¿Podrías enviármelo a mí también?
Muchas gracias
Rubén
Si todavía estoy a tiempo, ¿Podrías enviármelo a mí también?
Muchas gracias
Rubén
Nick Aplin,
05-02-2013 23:07
Re : Byssonectria species
Hello Ibai,
Can you put me on the list too?
Many thanks,
Nick
David Kelly,
06-02-2013 00:26
Re : Byssonectria species
Many thanks for the paper Ibai. It's very generous of you.
From your photographs and data it does look much more like B. terrestris.
David
From your photographs and data it does look much more like B. terrestris.
David
Norbert Heine,
06-02-2013 00:55
Re : Byssonectria species
Hello Ibai,
I'm very interestet in this paper, too!
Because last year I found a Byssonectria near droppings of deer.
Maybe fusispora?
Thank you!
Norbert
I'm very interestet in this paper, too!
Because last year I found a Byssonectria near droppings of deer.
Maybe fusispora?
Thank you!
Norbert
Ueli Graf,
07-02-2013 22:48
Re : Byssonectria species
Hello Ibai,
I'm very interestet in this paper, too!
Thank you Ueli
Peter Thompson,
08-02-2013 11:25
Re : Byssonectria species
Hello Ibai,
I would be very grateful to receive a copy of the Byssonectria paper as well, please.
I notice that in Index Fungorum and in the Fungal Records Database of Britain & Ireland, Byssonectria terrestris is given the current name Thelebolus terrestris. To me, this seems to be incorrect.
Thank you,
Best wishes,
Peter.
I would be very grateful to receive a copy of the Byssonectria paper as well, please.
I notice that in Index Fungorum and in the Fungal Records Database of Britain & Ireland, Byssonectria terrestris is given the current name Thelebolus terrestris. To me, this seems to be incorrect.
Thank you,
Best wishes,
Peter.
Miguel Ángel Ribes,
08-02-2013 13:07
Re : Byssonectria species
Hola Ibai
Si no es mucha molestia, por favor, envíame el artículo.
Un abrazo.
Si no es mucha molestia, por favor, envíame el artículo.
Un abrazo.
Chris Yeates,
08-02-2013 15:22
Re : Byssonectria species
@Peter
as I have pointed out elsewhere:
One problem arises in that IndexFungorum is a nomenclatural list - not a taxonomic one. The waters are muddied rather by incorporating SpeciesFungorum into IF (note how the page colour changes from grey to green). SpeciesFungorum is CABI's taxonomic opinion, harvested from various sources, and can never be 'the final word'. From necessity it is often well behind current opinions, something I have found when working on the Peronosporales for example.
as I have pointed out elsewhere:
One problem arises in that IndexFungorum is a nomenclatural list - not a taxonomic one. The waters are muddied rather by incorporating SpeciesFungorum into IF (note how the page colour changes from grey to green). SpeciesFungorum is CABI's taxonomic opinion, harvested from various sources, and can never be 'the final word'. From necessity it is often well behind current opinions, something I have found when working on the Peronosporales for example.
Amitiés
Chris
Krzysztof Kris,
20-05-2016 16:02
Re : Byssonectria species
I really need your help. Can somebody send me"New and noteworthy records of Pezizomycetes in Sweden and the Nordic countries"
Thank you in advance.
Thank you in advance.
Chris Johnson,
21-05-2016 09:18
Re : Byssonectria species
Good morning all
I missed this thread in 2013, I would also like to receive a pdf of this paper if someone has it available.
With thank and regards,
Chris
I missed this thread in 2013, I would also like to receive a pdf of this paper if someone has it available.
With thank and regards,
Chris
David Kelly,
22-04-2018 09:49
Re : Byssonectria species
I thought it is worth adding to this post that I have recently uploaded a sample of what I believe to be Byssonectria fusispora to the database. The differences in macro appearence, colouring and paraphyses from Byssonectria terrestis seem to fit well with the descriptions in the paper “Olariaga & Hansen (2011). New and noteworthy records of Pezizomycetes in Sweden and the Nordic countries?. Karstenia 51:1-16.” mentioned by Ibai earlier in the thread.
These were found in April on a compacted footpath through heathland which ran alongside mature pine trees. The apotheca were 0.5 to 1.5mm in diameter.
David
Stefan Jakobsson,
22-04-2018 21:09
Re : Byssonectria species
All Karstenia content is nowadays avalable online, except for the two most recent volumes:
http://karstenia.fi/index-of-articles/
The Byssonectria etc. paper is here:
http://www.funga.fi/Karstenia/Karstenia_51-1_2011-1.pdf
Cheers,
Stefan
http://karstenia.fi/index-of-articles/
The Byssonectria etc. paper is here:
http://www.funga.fi/Karstenia/Karstenia_51-1_2011-1.pdf
Cheers,
Stefan
Viktorie Halasu,
22-04-2018 22:10
Re : Byssonectria species
Hello,
concerning the differences between B. terrestris and fusispora, this paper is also very helpful:
Lindemann U, Vega M, Alvarado P (2015): Revision der Gattung Kotlabaea: K. deformis, K. delectans und K. benkertii. Zeitschrift für Mykologie 81(2): 373-402.
Online here: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Uwe_Lindemann/publication/281525896_Revision_der_Gattung_Kotlabaea_K_deformis_K_delectans_und_K_benkertii/links/55eca87508ae3e121847f4a3/Revision-der-Gattung-Kotlabaea-K-deformis-K-delectans-und-K-benkertii.pdf
concerning the differences between B. terrestris and fusispora, this paper is also very helpful:
Lindemann U, Vega M, Alvarado P (2015): Revision der Gattung Kotlabaea: K. deformis, K. delectans und K. benkertii. Zeitschrift für Mykologie 81(2): 373-402.
Online here: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Uwe_Lindemann/publication/281525896_Revision_der_Gattung_Kotlabaea_K_deformis_K_delectans_und_K_benkertii/links/55eca87508ae3e121847f4a3/Revision-der-Gattung-Kotlabaea-K-deformis-K-delectans-und-K-benkertii.pdf