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21-12-2025 01:54

David Chapados David Chapados

Hi,Would it be possible to find the species with t

20-12-2025 23:08

Patrice TANCHAUD

Bonsoir, récolte sur sol sablonneux dans l'arriÃ

20-12-2025 15:47

Mirek Gryc

Hi.These grew on pine wood that was heavily covere

20-12-2025 10:49

Mirek Gryc

Hi. „I doubt it is possible to identify this ti

18-12-2025 21:17

Pol Debaenst

The identification took me to Byssonectria deformi

15-12-2025 07:09

Danny Newman Danny Newman

indet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leavesMc

19-12-2025 10:10

Patrice TANCHAUD

Bonjour, récolte réalisée en milieu dunaire, a

18-12-2025 17:23

Bruno Coué Bruno Coué

Bonjour,je serais heureux d'avoir votre avis sur c

18-12-2025 18:07

Margot en Geert Vullings

These plumes were found on rotten wood.They strong

17-12-2025 18:35

Michel Hairaud Michel Hairaud

Bonjour à tous/Hi to everyone I am passing along

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Hyaloscyphaceae sur cône de pin sylvestre (Pinus sylvestris)
Bernard CLESSE, 16-04-2024 22:53
Bernard CLESSEBonsoir à toutes et tous,

Pourriez-vous m'aider à identifier cette Hyaloscyphaceae sur cône de pin sylvestre ?

Grand merci d'avance !

Bernard
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Stip Helleman, 16-04-2024 23:10
Stip Helleman
Re : Hyaloscyphaceae sur cône de pin sylvestre (Pinus sylvestris)
Bonsoir Bernard,

Great! it looks very much related to Michels "Hyalopeziza" sambuci, perhaps another species, this collection will make it a real multispecies genus :-)

Stip

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Hans-Otto Baral, 17-04-2024 07:51
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Hyaloscyphaceae sur cône de pin sylvestre (Pinus sylvestris)
Woww, this is "aff. Hyphdiscus ayelii", a Cordieritidaceae which shows to me the transition between the "aff. Hyphdiscus viridulus" group and Macroskyttea/Diplolaeviopsis "sambuci". Perhaps all should be placed in one genus - who knows.

I would be pleased to add the collection data. The species was first detected by the late Antoine Ayel in 1988 (HB 4052) and 1990 (HB 4050).

I compared Hyalopeziza trichodea on pine needles but that has substipitate apos and long hairs, and is probably a Hyaloscyphaceae s.l.

A very similar thing occurs on angiosperm wood and was documented by Enrique and Andgelo.

Would be great if this specimen could go for sequencing.
Bernard CLESSE, 17-04-2024 08:21
Bernard CLESSE
Re : Hyaloscyphaceae sur cône de pin sylvestre (Pinus sylvestris)
Many thanks for your messages, Stip and Zotto!

Zotto, I know very little about Hyphodiscus but the hairs I observed are very different from the hairs of Hyphodiscus, I think, is this normal? Do you have a description of Hyphodiscus ayelii?

I will send you the data on the collection privately.

I will send the samples for sequencing.

Best regards for you both,

Bernard
Michel Hairaud, 17-04-2024 09:46
Michel Hairaud
Re : Hyaloscyphaceae sur cône de pin sylvestre (Pinus sylvestris)
Salut Bernard,
Regarde dans ce dossier de Zotto 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wiW-r9nhlbcKIYzOGl8JQUnMJxCzpDDV
et tu as aussi un autre dossier avec la doc d'ENrique :
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5SeyOEkxxZhcS1IOE00b1ZzNTQ?resourcekey=0-9eb1pfYME4hjDR9Q4PkpAQ

Amitiés,
Michel
Bernard CLESSE, 17-04-2024 09:54
Bernard CLESSE
Re : Hyaloscyphaceae sur cône de pin sylvestre (Pinus sylvestris)
Grand merci pour ton message, Michel !

N'y connaissant rien dans tout ce petit monde, peux-tu me dire si Hyphodiscus viridulus et Hyphodiscus ayelii constituent la même espèce ?

Amitiés,

Bernard
Hans-Otto Baral, 17-04-2024 10:32
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Hyaloscyphaceae sur cône de pin sylvestre (Pinus sylvestris)
H. viridulus does not exist as a binomial, it is this which could be related:

Trichopeziza viridula Grelet, Revue Mycol., Paris 18(1): 35 (1953)

This is a very complex group to which certainly "Hyphodiscus" stereicola belongs.

These are small Cordieritidaceae, whereas Hyphodiscus is a Hyphodiscaceae related to Hyaloscyphaceae in the narrow sense (earlier both were the same family).
Bernard CLESSE, 17-04-2024 10:40
Bernard CLESSE
Re : Hyaloscyphaceae sur cône de pin sylvestre (Pinus sylvestris)
Great thanks, Zotto !

Bernard