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Thierry BlondelleBonjour,Récolte sur branchette de Castanea dans u
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Alan RockefellerWhich Peziza did I find on horse dung in Humboldt
19-07-2024 11:08
Miguel Ángel RibesGood morningThis Scutellinia from July 9 grew at 1
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Masanori KutsunaDear all, Does anyone have these papers and send
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Villalonga PacoSmall Scutellinia growing in garden soil (calcareo
Una para ID
Castillo Joseba,
19-12-2021 12:49
No he podido ver mas que 2 esporas fuera del asca
A ver si hay alguna sugerencia
Lothar Krieglsteiner,
19-12-2021 12:56
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looks like Melastiza chateri (alias Aleuria cornubiensis).
Best, Lothar
Best, Lothar
Hans-Otto Baral,
19-12-2021 16:14
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Hallo Lothar & Joseba
I once studied the spore ontogeny in M. chateri/Aleuria cornubiensis and A. aurantia in comparison, see the two files in my folders:
Aleuria cornubiensis, LB ontogeny.JPG - multiguttulate
Aleuria aurantia, LB ontogeny.JPG - biguttulate
The mature living spores sharply differ between the two.
So the present collection cannot be the same as what I call M. chateri.
I do not know about the types, perhaps someone knows. I. Fungorum has M. chateri and M. cornubiensis as two different species. Perhaps the synonymy link is simply lacking?
Zotto
Martin Bemmann,
19-12-2021 17:02
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According to IF both have a surviving holotype in Kew, but the links do not work:
Regards
Martin
Viktorie Halasu,
19-12-2021 19:05
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Hello all,
the present collection seems to be two species actually: one with brown hairs (Melastiza cf. cornubiensis) on macro photo, other (Aleuria aurantia?) on micros. I don't see any brown(ish) hairs on the excipulum photo, also biguttulate spores and rather long+thick spore appendages suggest Aleuria aurantia. Checking the ascus base would help. From what I've seen, A. aurantia has simple ascus base, while A. cestrica, A. congrex, Melastiza cornubiensis, M. carbonicola, M. flavorubens, M. contorta have all 2 septa (croziers).
The synonymy of Peziza cornubiensis, P. chateri and Humaria miniata was stated by Moravec (1994, type studies of all three), as far as I know.
http://www.czechmycology.org/_cm/CM47401.pdf
Viktorie
the present collection seems to be two species actually: one with brown hairs (Melastiza cf. cornubiensis) on macro photo, other (Aleuria aurantia?) on micros. I don't see any brown(ish) hairs on the excipulum photo, also biguttulate spores and rather long+thick spore appendages suggest Aleuria aurantia. Checking the ascus base would help. From what I've seen, A. aurantia has simple ascus base, while A. cestrica, A. congrex, Melastiza cornubiensis, M. carbonicola, M. flavorubens, M. contorta have all 2 septa (croziers).
The synonymy of Peziza cornubiensis, P. chateri and Humaria miniata was stated by Moravec (1994, type studies of all three), as far as I know.
http://www.czechmycology.org/_cm/CM47401.pdf
Viktorie
Hans-Otto Baral,
19-12-2021 20:23
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Indeed, I have in my A. aurantia folder a photo by Raul Tena (Oct. 2011) showing simple septa.
The same is shown in Berthet 1964 Fig. 19.
Castillo Joseba,
20-12-2021 12:40
Hans-Otto Baral,
20-12-2021 14:45
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o.k., this covers all, simple septa and croziers. Joseba, how many apothecia of this sample did you study up to now? Is this variation within a single apothecium, or do the ascus bases come from different apos?
Castillo Joseba,
20-12-2021 15:51
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He recibido 2 apotecios , que son los que se ven en la foto macro, y todas las micros estan hechas sobre trozos del apotecio mayor, que pienso que es el mas maduro, todas son una variación sobre el mismo apotecio
Joseba
Joseba
Castillo Joseba,
20-12-2021 15:51
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He recibido 2 apotecios , que son los que se ven en la foto macro, y todas las micros estan hechas sobre trozos del apotecio mayor, que pienso que es el mas maduro, todas son una variación sobre el mismo apotecio
Joseba
Joseba
Hans-Otto Baral,
20-12-2021 16:12
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o.k. What is the mounting medium of the two biguttulate spores in the middle of pic 2? Were they in water?
Castillo Joseba,
20-12-2021 18:53
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Azul de Lactofenol
Hans-Otto Baral,
20-12-2021 22:03
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Lactophenol is a high-concentrated solution, maybe 50%. It kills immediately. Over 30 years ago I made a video with Guy and Achim for the IMC4 where we added lactophenol to multiguttulate spores, and you can see in this video how the oil drops fuse to one big drop at the blink of an eye.