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Ascomycet on old Peniophora quercina
Maren Kamke,
26-04-2021 20:38
Hello everybody,
I found this fungus with dark, encrusted, septate hairs, maybe of two kinds on Quercus twigs.
Asci 8-spored with croziers, IKI negative, spores ciborioid.
I'm glad about any help
Thanks
Maren
Enrique Rubio,
26-04-2021 20:58
Re : Ascomycet on old Peniophora quercina
Hi Maren
Did you consider the possibility that it is a Dematioscypha? Are there any hyphomycete in the vicinity of the apothecia?
Did you consider the possibility that it is a Dematioscypha? Are there any hyphomycete in the vicinity of the apothecia?
Hans-Otto Baral,
26-04-2021 21:00
Re : Ascomycet on old Peniophora quercina
Hi Maren
do you have a photo of the hairs at higher resolution? I am not sure is it a Pyrenopeziza or a Hyphodiscus or ...?
Zotto
Maren Kamke,
26-04-2021 21:23
Re : Ascomycet on old Peniophora quercina
Dear Enrique and Zotto,
I saw no Hyphomycetes around the Apothecia.
Here come two more pictures of the hairs and one with Baral'scher solution.
Maren
Hans-Otto Baral,
26-04-2021 21:35
Re : Ascomycet on old Peniophora quercina
Ah, these are discrete, not too dense warts! Funny, and not unlike Hyphodiiscus. Anyway I am unsure and cannot remember such a fungus. This definitely excludes a Pyrenopeziza.
Kosonen Timo,
27-04-2021 07:23
Re : Ascomycet on old Peniophora quercina
Hi Maren,
Do you do cultures & sequencing? This could well a member of the Hyphodiscus "family" as suggested. It would be interesting to place this one.
t. Timo
Do you do cultures & sequencing? This could well a member of the Hyphodiscus "family" as suggested. It would be interesting to place this one.
t. Timo
Maren Kamke,
27-04-2021 18:03
Re : Ascomycet on old Peniophora quercina
Hi Timo,
unfortunately, as a amateurmycologist I don't do cultures and have only had one fungus sequenced so far, so I haven't any experience with it.
If you are interested, I can send you the fungus for this purpose.
Regards
Maren
unfortunately, as a amateurmycologist I don't do cultures and have only had one fungus sequenced so far, so I haven't any experience with it.
If you are interested, I can send you the fungus for this purpose.
Regards
Maren
Guy Marson,
28-04-2021 21:10
Re : Ascomycet on old Peniophora quercina
Hi Maren and Timo,
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If you got material from Maren, and if your sequencing is successful, please let me know if it is this species or not:
>Hyphodiscus on Peniophora
ATCATTACCGAGCTCATGCCCTCCGGGGTAGACCTCCCACCCTT
GCTGATTTACCCGTTTGTTGCTTTGGCGGGCCGTCTTCATGGCC
ACCGGCGCCCGGCTGGTGCGCGCCCGCCAGAGACCCCCAAAA
CCCAGTCTGTTTACGTGTCCGTCCGAAACCCATATATAATATTAA
AACTTTCAACAACGGATCTCTTGGTTCTGGCATCGATGAAGAAC
GCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAA
TCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACATTGCGCCCCTTGGTACTCCGAG
GGGCATGCCTGTCCGAGCGTCATAAACACCACTCAAGCTCCGC
TTGGTACTGGACCGTGCCGGCAACGGCAGGCCCCAAACTCAG
TGGCGGCGCCGCTAGGCTCCGAGCGTAGTACATTCCTCGCTCC
GGGGCCCCCGCGGTTGTCGACCAGCAACCCCCCTACTCTCAAG
TTTGACCT
I will load my sequence of such a species to GB when I have filled a gap of 300 nt in the LSU.
Best regards,
Guy
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If you got material from Maren, and if your sequencing is successful, please let me know if it is this species or not:
>Hyphodiscus on Peniophora
ATCATTACCGAGCTCATGCCCTCCGGGGTAGACCTCCCACCCTT
GCTGATTTACCCGTTTGTTGCTTTGGCGGGCCGTCTTCATGGCC
ACCGGCGCCCGGCTGGTGCGCGCCCGCCAGAGACCCCCAAAA
CCCAGTCTGTTTACGTGTCCGTCCGAAACCCATATATAATATTAA
AACTTTCAACAACGGATCTCTTGGTTCTGGCATCGATGAAGAAC
GCAGCGAAATGCGATAAGTAATGTGAATTGCAGAATTCAGTGAA
TCATCGAATCTTTGAACGCACATTGCGCCCCTTGGTACTCCGAG
GGGCATGCCTGTCCGAGCGTCATAAACACCACTCAAGCTCCGC
TTGGTACTGGACCGTGCCGGCAACGGCAGGCCCCAAACTCAG
TGGCGGCGCCGCTAGGCTCCGAGCGTAGTACATTCCTCGCTCC
GGGGCCCCCGCGGTTGTCGACCAGCAACCCCCCTACTCTCAAG
TTTGACCT
I will load my sequence of such a species to GB when I have filled a gap of 300 nt in the LSU.
Best regards,
Guy
Kosonen Timo,
29-04-2021 11:12
Re : Ascomycet on old Peniophora quercina
allright. I'll let you know how it goes. ---trying not to draw too much conclusions from ITS seq, but maybe this Guy's sequence is of a non aff. Hyphodiscus species?? It deviates a lot from the median Hyphodiscus seqs. ...an Encoelia???
Timo
Timo