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FRDBI
Simon Kennedy,
12-01-2020 10:28
I apologise for raising this topic again, but can anyone tell me what has happened to the old FRDBI. Once again, I find that I cannot get access. Are the historicalrecords publically available, or has the decision been made to 'put all that behind' us and consign it to the dustbin of history, in the pursuit of that which is 'shiny and new', but not 'fit for purpose'?
Simon
Anthony Carter,
12-01-2020 10:39
Re : FRDBI
It went off on Friday but I used it yesterday, Saturday. They might be doing maintenance or transferring records to FRDBI2. I shall try to find out.
Tony Carter
Tony Carter
Simon Kennedy,
12-01-2020 11:37
Re : FRDBI
Many thanks Anthony. I have tried this morning and I am still getting an error message. At least there is hope that it will return. I do find it so quick and easy to use. At some point, I will have to get up to speed with the new database, but a couple of genera I was checking on there, were did not even appear, following a search.
Anthony Carter,
13-01-2020 17:53
Re : FRDBI
The problem is that the old and well loved FRDBI was run by Paul Kirk, now an honorary research associate at Kew(I think). He also curates the Species/Index Fungorum.
This database was a personal project, run on his hardware, and which he made available to us.
But he is in the throes of retirement and can not continue with the old FRDBI. This is why BMS is developing the new database which will feed into the NBN database. It has the support of the British Museum and will be run by the BMS.
So what to do with the original database? It has been moved to the servers at Kew to be looked after by the IT department there. But is not a Kew product so we will need to ask them what they intend to do with it.
I am advised that Paul Kirk also has difficulty accessing it.
If people wish to continue to access it perhaps they should let Kew know.
Tony Carter
This database was a personal project, run on his hardware, and which he made available to us.
But he is in the throes of retirement and can not continue with the old FRDBI. This is why BMS is developing the new database which will feed into the NBN database. It has the support of the British Museum and will be run by the BMS.
So what to do with the original database? It has been moved to the servers at Kew to be looked after by the IT department there. But is not a Kew product so we will need to ask them what they intend to do with it.
I am advised that Paul Kirk also has difficulty accessing it.
If people wish to continue to access it perhaps they should let Kew know.
Tony Carter
Malcolm Greaves,
13-01-2020 19:26
Re : FRDBI
Until all the old records are transferred across to the new database which I think is what is to happen then we need access to those records.
antoine carter,
29-01-2020 18:25
Re : FRDBI
I have solved the problem. Having moved server it is no longer https (Secure). It is just http.
So just cross the s off.
I think you owe mw a couple of drinks for this effort.
Tony Carter
So just cross the s off.
I think you owe mw a couple of drinks for this effort.
Tony Carter
Anthony Carter,
31-01-2020 14:59
Re : FRDBI
The server has moved from https to http so just delete the 's'.
But you still can not search associated organisms. Kew are still working on this.
Tony Carter
But you still can not search associated organisms. Kew are still working on this.
Tony Carter
Anthony Carter,
31-01-2020 15:00
Re : FRDBI
The server has moved from https to http so just delete the 's'.
But you still can not search associated organisms. Kew are still working on this.
Tony Carter
But you still can not search associated organisms. Kew are still working on this.
Tony Carter
Simon Kennedy,
31-01-2020 19:14
Re : FRDBI
Many many thanks, Tony,
Is it likely to 'disappear again? I am afraid I have, (perhaps prematurely), reached the stage in my life where change and novelty are not necessarily met as either 'interesting challenges' or improvements'. This is particularly the case when the process of change is not managed with the end user in mind. I recall some singularly apposite old saw about people feeling as though they are being treated like mushrooms....
Best wishes,
Simon
Is it likely to 'disappear again? I am afraid I have, (perhaps prematurely), reached the stage in my life where change and novelty are not necessarily met as either 'interesting challenges' or improvements'. This is particularly the case when the process of change is not managed with the end user in mind. I recall some singularly apposite old saw about people feeling as though they are being treated like mushrooms....
Best wishes,
Simon
antoine carter,
02-02-2020 17:38
Re : FRDBI
It has disappeared again so try
http://basidiochecklist.science.kew.org/BritishFungi/GBCHKLST/gbchklst.asp
If that fails
http://basidiochecklist.science.kew.org/BritishFungi/
gets you to near the Home page and you can go to the search page from there. But still no organisms search which I find most useful.
Tony
http://basidiochecklist.science.kew.org/BritishFungi/GBCHKLST/gbchklst.asp
If that fails
http://basidiochecklist.science.kew.org/BritishFungi/
gets you to near the Home page and you can go to the search page from there. But still no organisms search which I find most useful.
Tony