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Gernot FriebesHi,I wanted to share this collection on Rubus idae
Cf. Cryptohymenium
Guillaume Eyssartier,
18-07-2018 18:33
Bonjour à tous,
je vous envoie cet étrange ascomycète récolté au sol en Nouvelle-Calédonie (je ne suis pas le récolteur). Il semble tout à fait original, bien qu'il partage quelques affinités, notamment microscopiques, avec Cryptohymenium pycnidiophorum.
La partie centrale, noire, est illustrée sur les photos 3 et 4 : on y observe des loges avec des phialides et des conidies, alors que la partie verte, lobée, contient asques et paraphyses.
Merci pour vos avis !
Guillaume.
Hans-Otto Baral,
18-07-2018 20:49

Re : Cf. Cryptohymenium
Cher Guillome,
great collection! Indeed there are strong similarities to C. pycnidiophorum described from New Zealand. Do you have spore measurements?
I see in the Landcare database that the species was quite often collected in New Zealand, and also a single sequence exists, regrettably only ITS, which does not show a relationship to Dermateaceae, where the genus is currently placed, but a high distance to everything.
Do you also have a section of the hymenium? It is subapically under a covering layer? I wonder how asci with apical ring can shoot their spores unless the covering layer ruptures before.
Zotto
great collection! Indeed there are strong similarities to C. pycnidiophorum described from New Zealand. Do you have spore measurements?
I see in the Landcare database that the species was quite often collected in New Zealand, and also a single sequence exists, regrettably only ITS, which does not show a relationship to Dermateaceae, where the genus is currently placed, but a high distance to everything.
Do you also have a section of the hymenium? It is subapically under a covering layer? I wonder how asci with apical ring can shoot their spores unless the covering layer ruptures before.
Zotto
Joey JTan,
18-07-2018 21:45
Re : Cf. Cryptohymenium
Wow!
Guillaume Eyssartier,
20-07-2018 12:11
Re : Cf. Cryptohymenium
Dear Zotto,
thank you for your prompt answer.
I will try to observe a section through the hymenium quickly, and of course I won't forget to measure the spores. The ITS if this colletcion is closely related to Cryptohymenium, but significantly different (93 % of similarity). I asked also for the LSU.
To be continued...
Guillaume.
Hans-Otto Baral,
20-07-2018 15:20

Re : Cf. Cryptohymenium
A you have a sequence. Indeed 7% is pretty much!