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Unguiculariopsis
Elisabeth Stöckli,
28-06-2017 19:40
Trouvé sur branches mortes de Ribes, colonisé par Godronia ribis (au bord d'un cours d'eau à 1'650m) apothécies 0.3-1.2mm, surface externe couverts de poils, hyménium rouge-brun, asques 39-50x5.5-7µm, octosporés, IKI-, spores sphériques 2.9-3.2µm.
Après la monographie de Zhuang j'arrive à U. godroniicola. Merci d'avance pour vos avis.
Elisabeth
Stip Helleman,
28-06-2017 20:46
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Hi Elisabeth,
thanks for showing us your finding, all Unguiculariopsis species are rare and I have never seen this one. According to Zhuang the Identification is correct.
Amitiés
Stip
thanks for showing us your finding, all Unguiculariopsis species are rare and I have never seen this one. According to Zhuang the Identification is correct.
Amitiés
Stip
Hans-Otto Baral,
28-06-2017 21:53
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Hallo Elisabeth
wundervole Fotos! Von dieser Art habe ich noch nie Fotos gesehen. Hast du auch eine Nahaufnahme der Sporen?
Zotto
wundervole Fotos! Von dieser Art habe ich noch nie Fotos gesehen. Hast du auch eine Nahaufnahme der Sporen?
Zotto
Elisabeth Stöckli,
28-06-2017 22:10
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Merci für die Bestätigung, anbei noch Nahaufnahmen der Sporen.
Elisabeth
Hans-Otto Baral,
28-06-2017 22:31
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Sehr schön!
Michel Hairaud,
28-06-2017 22:38
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Bonsoir Elisabeth, et les amis Stip et Zotto,
Superbe trouvaille .
Jamais vu cette espèce, sans doute rare . Je ne sais si Kadri l'a déjà séquencée . Le cas échéant, aurais tu un peu de matériel disponible ? Je lui pose la question, à moins que Zotto ne sache si c'est déjà fait ?
Amitiés
Michel
Superbe trouvaille .
Jamais vu cette espèce, sans doute rare . Je ne sais si Kadri l'a déjà séquencée . Le cas échéant, aurais tu un peu de matériel disponible ? Je lui pose la question, à moins que Zotto ne sache si c'est déjà fait ?
Amitiés
Michel
Elisabeth Stöckli,
28-06-2017 22:50
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Oui, j'en ai assez.
Amitiés
Elisabeth
Hans-Otto Baral,
28-06-2017 23:09
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Hi Michel
I had the same idea. I strongly suppose that no sequence exists. I am only reluctant until I see the first sequences from Somiedo. I fear Kadri gets overloaded. But we can ask her.
Zotto
I had the same idea. I strongly suppose that no sequence exists. I am only reluctant until I see the first sequences from Somiedo. I fear Kadri gets overloaded. But we can ask her.
Zotto
Michel Hairaud,
28-06-2017 23:30
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Merci Elisabeth,
Zotto, I share your fear, i'm afraid it's abit too late to avoid overloading her anyway after the Somiedo harvest, !
But as the species -if actually geneticaly different from other round spored Unguiculariopsis - seems so rare, it'sworth trying as this is one among her top topics. I was about to write to her anyway and will carefully try to avoid any supplementary pressure -:)
Michel
Zotto, I share your fear, i'm afraid it's abit too late to avoid overloading her anyway after the Somiedo harvest, !
But as the species -if actually geneticaly different from other round spored Unguiculariopsis - seems so rare, it'sworth trying as this is one among her top topics. I was about to write to her anyway and will carefully try to avoid any supplementary pressure -:)
Michel
Hans-Otto Baral,
28-06-2017 23:33
Re : Unguiculariopsis
I collected in La Peral an Unguiculariopsis with ellipsoid spores which she also wanted to have. It is still here and will be sent to her with a dozen other samples in the future....
Stip Helleman,
29-06-2017 16:40
Re : Unguiculariopsis
it would be great if all this knowledge could be combined, I have U. ilicincola and U robergei from this spring ready for PCR
Stip
Stip
Suija Ave,
29-06-2017 18:16
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Dear all,
I'm continuing to work with lichenicolous Helotiales, but as several of them are related to non-lichenicolous Unguiculariopsis, I am collecting sequence data from non-lichenicolous Unguiculariopsis as well. The preliminary results show that Unguiculariopsis seems to be polyphyletic even within the recently resurrected family Cordieritideaceae. Thus I'm really interested in any new collections which I can use for DNA extraction and sequencing
kind regards, Ave Suija
I'm continuing to work with lichenicolous Helotiales, but as several of them are related to non-lichenicolous Unguiculariopsis, I am collecting sequence data from non-lichenicolous Unguiculariopsis as well. The preliminary results show that Unguiculariopsis seems to be polyphyletic even within the recently resurrected family Cordieritideaceae. Thus I'm really interested in any new collections which I can use for DNA extraction and sequencing
kind regards, Ave Suija
Hans-Otto Baral,
29-06-2017 20:46
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Dear Ave
I am happy you are interested in this genus. Did you find that Unguiculariopsis forms several lineages within this family, or also outside?
Zotto
I am happy you are interested in this genus. Did you find that Unguiculariopsis forms several lineages within this family, or also outside?
Zotto
Michel Hairaud,
29-06-2017 20:53
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Dear Ave ,
further to Kadri's answer last night, Elisabeth will send it to her. She told me that you also work as a colleague of her in Tartu.
Thanks, Stip , for sharing interest and your own collections
Michel
further to Kadri's answer last night, Elisabeth will send it to her. She told me that you also work as a colleague of her in Tartu.
Thanks, Stip , for sharing interest and your own collections
Michel
Suija Ave,
29-06-2017 22:02
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Dear Zotto,
except the single sequence from GenBank representing Unguiculariopsis damingshanica, all the rest seem to be members of Cordieritideaceae. But I have data only from eleven species.
best, Ave.
except the single sequence from GenBank representing Unguiculariopsis damingshanica, all the rest seem to be members of Cordieritideaceae. But I have data only from eleven species.
best, Ave.
Stip Helleman,
29-06-2017 22:08
Re : Unguiculariopsis
I agree with Ave in the opinion that Unguiculariopsis will be polyphyletic, my expectations are that there will be the Lichenicolous and Fungicolous lineages in the Cordieritideaceae where the fungicolous lineage will go together with Hyphodiscus stereicola etc.
Stip
Stip
Suija Ave,
29-06-2017 22:08
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Dear Michel,
thank you !
Ave.
thank you !
Ave.
Hans-Otto Baral,
29-06-2017 22:12
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Indeed this damingshanica SSU is quite distant to anything but seems related to Dothideomycetes, perhaps a contamination?
Interesting that two groups are formed.
Interesting that two groups are formed.
Suija Ave,
29-06-2017 22:27
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Dear Stip,
I have not analysed the data in point of view of substrate preferences, but I think there are some ecological segregation indeed. But I am not sure it so simple. I somehow forgot Hyphodiscus stereicola, it will be interesting to include.
best, Ave.
I have not analysed the data in point of view of substrate preferences, but I think there are some ecological segregation indeed. But I am not sure it so simple. I somehow forgot Hyphodiscus stereicola, it will be interesting to include.
best, Ave.
Suija Ave,
29-06-2017 23:08
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Dear Zotto,
the SSU of damingshanica might be a contamination indeed, but I have seen that it clusters within Helotiales. Thus the only way to solve it is to get another specimen.
best, Ave.
the SSU of damingshanica might be a contamination indeed, but I have seen that it clusters within Helotiales. Thus the only way to solve it is to get another specimen.
best, Ave.
François Valade,
30-06-2017 19:32
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Hello
I made early may 2017 a collection of Unguiculariopsis ilicincola on dead stem of Yucca gloriosa, still attached to the plant, in Ré island, France (atlantic ocean).
I already collected it in november 2009 on same plant, in Oléron island, sister island of Ré, Michel probably remembers it, we studied it together in Nantes.
I can share these collections.
cheers
François
I made early may 2017 a collection of Unguiculariopsis ilicincola on dead stem of Yucca gloriosa, still attached to the plant, in Ré island, France (atlantic ocean).
I already collected it in november 2009 on same plant, in Oléron island, sister island of Ré, Michel probably remembers it, we studied it together in Nantes.
I can share these collections.
cheers
François
Stip Helleman,
30-06-2017 20:16
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Hi Francois,
Great!
Still on the plants at parking? The most stable collecting site I know, since 2006 i recall findings in 2008 and 2011 too. Unguiculariopsis seems to like the ocean ;-)
Amités,
Stip
Great!
Still on the plants at parking? The most stable collecting site I know, since 2006 i recall findings in 2008 and 2011 too. Unguiculariopsis seems to like the ocean ;-)
Amités,
Stip
François Valade,
30-06-2017 20:28
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Hi Stip
This year collection was made in another place than the parking you know. There are many many places with yuccas in this island.
cheers
François
This year collection was made in another place than the parking you know. There are many many places with yuccas in this island.
cheers
François
Stip Helleman,
30-06-2017 20:50
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Thanks Francois,
I did not notice the spreading of Yucca on Ré.
cheers,
Stip
I did not notice the spreading of Yucca on Ré.
cheers,
Stip
Michel Hairaud,
30-06-2017 23:54
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Oui François bien sur , je l'ai trouvé plusieurs fois depuis.
Yes Stip, there are several places on Ré with strange landscapes : bienvenue à Yuccaland !
Another Ungui. in not uncommon on Ré , on Suaeda , which was also found by Zotto I think during a Mellasco meeting. U. castanea cf.
(I also remember on that day , you made the whole group wait for a long time in the bus while you had disappeared, Stip... ! Not such a bad souvenir, anyway)
Amitiés. Michel
Yes Stip, there are several places on Ré with strange landscapes : bienvenue à Yuccaland !
Another Ungui. in not uncommon on Ré , on Suaeda , which was also found by Zotto I think during a Mellasco meeting. U. castanea cf.
(I also remember on that day , you made the whole group wait for a long time in the bus while you had disappeared, Stip... ! Not such a bad souvenir, anyway)
Amitiés. Michel
Hans-Otto Baral,
01-07-2017 08:09
Re : Unguiculariopsis
Yes, Michel, this was in 2008, and "Dasyscyphus" castaneus grew there on Suaeda with Stictis ?stellata as always, but also U. ilicincola was present!