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Ombrophila on fagus cupules
Marian Jagers, 13-10-2016 14:39
Marian JagersCould somebody help me with this species growing gregariously on Fagus cupules in moist walls of a cartrack in a Fagus forest.

Apothecia consist of greyishpink (more greyish the day after collected), gelatinous discs, with a short stalk. Size: up to 4 mm diameter.

Microscopic data:
Spores: hyaline, smooth, 10,5-13,5x 4-5 mµ, with one large guttule and more smaller.
Asci: 8-spored, with hooks, all asci blue reaction with Lugol, 75-85x7-8 mµ.
Paraphyses: filiforme.
Exipulum: Textura prismatica.
Granulation/cristals local on hyphae of the gel and on the excipulumcels.

I used the key for Ombrophila species (Baral, 1988). Could this be Ombrophila spec. 6?

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Martin Bemmann, 13-10-2016 14:54
Martin Bemmann
Re : Ombrophila on fagus cupules
Marian Jagers, 13-10-2016 15:49
Marian Jagers
Re : Ombrophila on fagus cupules
Hi Martin,

Thank you for your help (and the link).

Marian
Hans-Otto Baral, 13-10-2016 21:58
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Ombrophila on fagus cupules
Yes, I also think it is O. fagiseda, an unpublished name. Your last photo needs to be turned for 18ß°? I assume a gel layer outside the ectal excipulum is sparse,
Marian Jagers, 13-10-2016 22:37
Marian Jagers
Re : Ombrophila on fagus cupules
Hi Otto,

Thank you also for your response. May I ask why this species is not published?

Hans-Otto Baral, 13-10-2016 22:50
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Ombrophila on fagus cupules
Haha. Yes you may. I have about 500 new species to publish, so this is the reason.
By the way, the literature contains a huge amount of (very) badly described taxa, nobody knows what they are, so without type study it is impossible to decide whether a species that we know is the same. So this is another heavy reason.
Zotto
Marian Jagers, 13-10-2016 23:37
Marian Jagers
Re : Ombrophila on fagus cupules
Thank you. I understand there is much work to be done.
I will send Stip Helleman some cupules. He will describe and sequence this Ombrophila.
Hans-Otto Baral, 14-10-2016 11:04
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Ombrophila on fagus cupules
It will be very good when Stip gets a sequence of this species as none exist so far. I actually sent different Ombrophilas, among them fagiseda, to someone for sequencing over a year ago but none of them appear so far to have been processed.

I actually appreciate it very much when someone takes up this matter but I would be happy to be author of the paper anyhow, since my contributions will not be  sparse :-)

Zotto
Stip Helleman, 18-10-2016 21:44
Stip Helleman
Re : Ombrophila on fagus cupules
Hoi Zotto,
a bit of miscommunication I think, I will describe this collection only and hopefully pcr will be succesfull so it can be used in future studies.
Stip
Hans-Otto Baral, 18-10-2016 21:51
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Ombrophila on fagus cupules
hihi, so kann man sich missverstehen....