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Patellaria "crassispora" on Arundo
Lepista Zacarias,
23-05-2016 22:23
These specimens were found in the same day than the Patellaria atrata considered at
http://www.ascofrance.fr/search_forum/42904
in the nearby sand dunes on an old piece of Arundo. The main differences for that species are the existence of a blue pigment in the epihymenium and the wider spores, for which got the following dimensions:
(29.9) 30.8 - 39.3 (42.8) × (6.9) 7.1 - 9.3 (10.1) µm
Q = (3.5) 3.7 - 4.8 (4.9) ; N = 31
Me = 35.5 × 8.2 µm ; Qe = 4.3
Again, if I understood correctly the comments by Zotto regarding my topic
http://www.ascofrance.fr/search_forum/37495
this should be Patellaria crassispora. However, I don't know if this name is valid; I could only find references to Patellaria crassispora Baral nom. prov. from 2010. Maybe Zotto can add some information about it.
Thanks,
zaca
Hans-Otto Baral,
24-05-2016 07:19
Re : Patellaria "crassispora" on Arundo
Yes, I think this is P. crassispora, particularly because of the blue pigment and spore shape.
Undescribed, as so many species. But Patellaria is difficult and somewhat variable. Sequence data are lacking so far to support the morphological findings.
Undescribed, as so many species. But Patellaria is difficult and somewhat variable. Sequence data are lacking so far to support the morphological findings.
Lepista Zacarias,
24-05-2016 16:43
Re : Patellaria "crassispora" on Arundo
Thanks, Zotto,
for your help and for sharing the information.
Regards,
zaca
for your help and for sharing the information.
Regards,
zaca
M Jonathan,
29-05-2016 00:42
Re : Patellaria "crassispora" on Arundo
I do have genetic sequence of it from pure culture (wich is also preserved), however it come from a north-american specimen, and I feel like we should also have a sequence of a north america P atrata, to confirm distinction.
Hans-Otto Baral,
30-05-2016 10:15
Re : Patellaria "crassispora" on Arundo
We had clarified this some time ago. here is the analysis of ITS and LSU. But until now there is no ITs sequence of P. atrata in GenBank.
