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07-08-2016 20:41

Miguel Ãngel Ribes Miguel Ángel Ribes

Good night againThis small (500-600 µm) white apo

23-08-2016 21:41

Rubén Martínez-Gil Rubén Martínez-Gil

Hola a todos. Subo unas fotos de un asco que enco

20-08-2016 23:45

Rubén Martínez-Gil Rubén Martínez-Gil

Hola a todos. Subo unas fotos de un asco que hemo

21-08-2016 14:21

Rubén Martínez-Gil Rubén Martínez-Gil

Hola a todos. Subo unas fotos de una Peziza que e

22-08-2016 13:41

Blasco Rafael Blasco Rafael

Hola, tengo esta muestra sobre ramas cortadas el a

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Salvador Tello

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21-08-2016 10:25

Nicolas VAN VOOREN Nicolas VAN VOOREN

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22-08-2016 17:56

Andreas Gminder Andreas Gminder

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21-08-2016 21:40

Salvador Tello

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Hello everyone.Anyone have any key to  Botryospha

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Iodophanus or Thecotheus 310116
Miguel Ángel Ribes, 07-08-2016 20:41
Miguel Ãngel RibesGood night again

This small (500-600 µm) white apos were growing in a Sus scrofa dung, at 1.340m, inside an Abies forest. First we think about a Iodophanus, but I think it don't fit Ok with none. So, we thought about Thecotheus, but I don't find any similar.

Could you help me?

Spores with elipsodial to a litte fusiforme shape, with a very fine ornamentation, (19,5) 20,1 - 21,7 (22,5) × (10,2) 10,5 - 11,6 (12,1) µm; Q = (1,7) 1,8 - 2 (2,1); N = 78; Me = 20,9 × 11 µm; Qe = 1,9.

Asci with 8 spores, with croziers and blue all around with IKI, not only at apex.

Paraphysis cylindrical, slightly broad at apex and with abundant big VBs at least in the apex cell; but sometimes with pointed and curved apex.

Marginal cells similar to paraphysis without VBs and more capitated.

Thank you.

Miguel Á. Ribes

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Peter Püwert, 08-08-2016 00:51
Peter Püwert
Re : Iodophanus or Thecotheus 310116
Hi Miguel,
this is already I. carneus. The species can vary in colour strongly how on the photos is to be seen. Noticeably under the Mikro are the big asci with the minutely verruculose spores, the septate and pigmentate paraphyses. The black balls in your preparation could be spores of Elaphomyces, with wild pig dung also not so incorrectly.
The dung of my fotos is from mouse, rabbit and guinea pig.
Greetings Peter.
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Michel Delpont, 08-08-2016 10:40
Michel Delpont
Re : Iodophanus or Thecotheus 310116
Salut Miguel

No hay problema para Iodophanus, en realidad, el color puede ser variable dependiendo de la luz y la edad del hongo.

una salvación.

Michel.


Miguel Ángel Ribes, 08-08-2016 21:42
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re : Iodophanus or Thecotheus 310116
Ok, thank's Peter and Michel.

I can't belive it, I was very confused with this species.

Anyway, do you have any explanation to rostrate-elongated paraphysis with big VBs, pictures 19 and 20 in Cresil Blue?

Best wishes.
Peter Püwert, 08-08-2016 22:04
Peter Püwert
Re : Iodophanus or Thecotheus 310116
Hi Miguel,
in my opinion the paraphysis are destroyed by CB.
Greetings Peter.
Miguel Ángel Ribes, 08-08-2016 23:06
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re : Iodophanus or Thecotheus 310116
Hi Peter

No, no, please look pictures nº 14 and 15, both are made in water. In the new attached picture it is visible too.

Thank's a lot.
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Peter Püwert, 09-08-2016 02:46
Peter Püwert
Re : Iodophanus or Thecotheus 310116
Hi Miguel,
now I see, what You mean.
KIMBROUGH, J.W., E.R. LUCK- ALLEN et R.F. CAIN (1969): Iodophanus, the pezizeae segregate of Ascophanus (Pezizales): Amer. J. Bot. 56 (10) writes:
Page 1889: "Excipulum-...Many cells become long, flexuous, hyalin, septate hairs varies with different species."
Page 1196: "Apothecia...with scattered, flexuosus, hyalin, septate hairs that are rounded at their apices, and many reach 50-80 µ in length;...".
This must be the elements, I have given to here actually no attention.
Greetings Peter.
Miguel Ángel Ribes, 23-08-2016 18:48
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re : Iodophanus or Thecotheus 310116
Hi Peter

Sorry, sorry, sorry, I overlooked your answer.

Very interesting, probably thata are the cells I saw.

I haven't that paper and don't find it in the internet. Could you send it to me? please.

Best wishes.
Nicolas VAN VOOREN, 23-08-2016 22:47
Nicolas VAN VOOREN
Re : Iodophanus or Thecotheus 310116
Paper sent privately.
Miguel Ángel Ribes, 23-08-2016 23:35
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
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Merci Nicolas.