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08-12-2016 21:34

Eduard Osieck

Lachnum morthieri has been collected in the Nether

22-12-2016 10:38

Castillo Joseba Castillo Joseba

en madera no determinadaA mi me parece  Rutstroem

19-12-2016 22:37

Andrés Valverde Valera Andrés Valverde Valera

Bonjour, Je vous ajoute quelques photos d'un dothi

17-12-2016 23:47

Rubén Martínez-Gil Rubén Martínez-Gil

Hola a todos. Pongo unas fotos de un asco que hem

20-12-2016 17:25

Roland Labbé

Bonjour !Voici un disco inconnu pour nous.Il se pe

19-12-2016 19:11

DirkW DirkW

salut a tous, has anybody an opinion on this anam

17-11-2016 11:27

Peter Thompson

Hello Everyone,I have found some whitish fruit bod

16-12-2016 18:26

Bernard CLESSE Bernard CLESSE

Bonsoir à tous,Trouvé dernièrement cet hypogé,

14-12-2016 14:11

Lothar Krieglsteiner Lothar Krieglsteiner

In the Eifel National Park I also found this anamo

17-12-2016 16:06

Bernard CLESSE Bernard CLESSE

Bonjour à tous,Que pensez-vous de cet Hymenogaste

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Lachnum morthieri vs L. nudipes var. minor
Eduard Osieck, 08-12-2016 21:34
Lachnum morthieri has been collected in the Netherlands for the first time. The identification was based on an earlier thread on this forum: http://www.ascofrance.com/forum/2449/lachnum-sur-filipendula-ulmaria and on a drawing of Baral (HB767). However, I am confused by the name Lachnum morthieri because of the comment made by Dennis (1949) following his description of Lachnum nudipes var. minor:

"Le Gal (1939) described this form as D. morthieri (Cooke) Sacc., recorded it on Eupatorium (?) and Mentha silvestris but added that 'elle semblait n'être qu'une forme grêle de' D. nudipes. No Dasyscypha remains on Cooke's specimen of Peziza morthieri but his accompanying sketches show short cylindrical hairs bearing a large apical crystal mass and filiform paraphyses not exceeding the asci. A sketch of two cup-shaped apothecia is labelled "sulphur colour'. The collector's note reads 'Peziza ad caules Senecionis'. This is clearly not the fungus of Le Gal."


Wouldn't Lachnum nudipes var. minor Dennis be a better name for this taxon?


Thanks for any help, may be I have missed some more recent reference.


Eduard

Hans-Otto Baral, 08-12-2016 21:47
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Lachnum morthieri vs L. nudipes var. minor
Hi Eduard
indeed L. morthieri is a doubtful taxon. But I think that L. nudipes var. minor has never been reexamined from the type. I wonder whether it has croziers or not. L. nudipes is with croziers and a species that also grows on Filipendula and which I called "subnudipes" has much smaller spores and inamyloid asci without croziers. But I fear there exist more species. What I identified in 1976 as morthieri is such a third species, but I never clarified the croziers situation.

Did you document any collection?
Zotto
Eduard Osieck, 09-12-2016 22:23
Re : Lachnum morthieri vs L. nudipes var. minor
Hi Zotto,
Thank you for your prompt reaction and comments. I have contacted the person who made the collection for further details and I will come back on this shortly.
Eduard
Eduard Osieck, 12-12-2016 14:11
Re : Lachnum morthieri vs L. nudipes var. minor
Here are some details and photos of the above-mentioned collection (Winterswijk, October 2016):

Ascomata 0,5 – 0,6 mm Ø, stipe 0,2 mm, hymenium and hairs pale yellow. Hairs 60-70 x 4-5 mu, encrusted, with single, striking large crystal on top (10-13 mu). Paraphyses beyond asci, lanceolate, width 5-6 mu. Spores (6-) 8-10 x2 mu, sometimes slightly curved, oil 1. Asci 40-50 mu, croziers not checked. Growing on herbaceous stem or twig.
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Hans-Otto Baral, 12-12-2016 16:17
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Lachnum morthieri vs L. nudipes var. minor
Can you exclude Lachnum nudipes? I know this species only from Filipendula, perhaps you can exclude this plant?
Eduard Osieck, 22-12-2016 12:20
Re : Lachnum morthieri vs L. nudipes var. minor
Lachnum nudipes was excluded on the basis of the features mentioned in the Lachnum key:

Sp. 6-11/1,2-1,5 µm, oil content 1, A. 40-50 µm long, Ap. 0,8-1 mm, stipe 0,3-0,5 mm
............................................................................................................... L. morthieri
Sp. 9-15/1,7-2,3 µm, oil content 0, A. 65-80 µm long, Ap. 0,7-2,2 mm, stipe 1-2,5 mm ............................................................................................................... L. nudipes

The material was collected in a regenerating peat bog area where the occurrence of Filipendula is unlikely, so this substrate can be excluded.

Eduard
Hans-Otto Baral, 22-12-2016 13:00
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Lachnum morthieri vs L. nudipes var. minor
o.k., but note that my ascus measureents are in living state. 40-50 in dead state would be about 60-70 in livin state.