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Neottiella?
Charles Aron, 24-12-2024 09:02
Charles AronHi All, 

Recently I found this orange Disco growing with Marchantia and mosses in a damp, shady corner close to farm buildings. Details are as follows:


Ascomata 4-7mm. Shallow bowl shaped when young, becoming discoid, sometimes with a lobed margin. Excipulum downy with hyaline/whitish hairs. Hymenium orange.
Ascospores ellipsoid, smooth, with granular contents, without guttules, 31-37.5x16.5-18.5.
Asci 245-305x27.5-35.
Hairs hyaline, thick-walled, septate, sometimes with mucilaginous deposit, 190-500x7.5-12.5, 
some with a swollen basal cell. Marginal hairs wider, ones further down more slender and grading into rhizoids. 
Paraphyses very pale under microscope, swollen to 6-10, septate. 
Excipulum more or less a Textura Globosa with ellipsoid, thick-walled cells with walls up to c3 thick.
Asci and ascospores dextrinoid in Melzer's.

This taxon appears to be bryophilous/parasitic with rhizoids attaced to living mosses and Marchantia. I have considered Neottiella, Cheilymenia and Octospora but none seems to quite fit. 

Seasons Greetings, 

Charles.
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Björn Sothmann, 24-12-2024 09:07
Björn Sothmann
Re : Neottiella?
Hi Charles,

this looks like Octosporopsis nicolai.

Best,

Björn
Lothar Krieglsteiner, 24-12-2024 09:14
Lothar Krieglsteiner
Re : Neottiella?
The liverwort should (then) be Lunularia cruciata. I do not see the "Brutbecher" that should be lunate and not circular like in Marchantia.
Charles Aron, 24-12-2024 09:42
Charles Aron
Re : Neottiella?
Hi Bjorn and Lothar, 

Many thanks for your rapid responses. I've added a couple more photos, one showing more typically shaped ascospores (in the other photo they were a bit wide). Also a view of the margin. I've never heard of Octosporopsis so that's interesting! I think the liverwort is Marchantia although I'm not an expert. 

Best wishes, 

Charles.
Charles Aron, 24-12-2024 09:48
Charles Aron
Re : Neottiella?
I've just looked up nicolai it does seem to fit quite well. 

Charles.
Charles Aron, 24-12-2024 13:03
Charles Aron
Re : Neottiella?
Hi again, 

I've attached a photo of the liverwort which I think is Lunularia. 

Charles.
Lothar Krieglsteiner, 24-12-2024 13:14
Lothar Krieglsteiner
Re : Neottiella?
yes, Charles.
O. nicolai is specialised to Lunularia, as I wrote.
I know it from Portugal and Spain.
By now I did not find it in Germany, although Lunularia grows there also.
Yours, Lothar
Charles Aron, 24-12-2024 13:22
Charles Aron
Re : Neottiella?
Hi Lothar, 

A pleasing record; there are three previous ones for Britain according to FRDBI. 

Best wishes, 

Charles.