Accès membres

Mot de passe perdu? S'inscrire

02-12-2024 16:13

Paul Diederich Paul Diederich

Flora of Lichenicolous FungiVolume 2 · Hyphomycet

25-12-2024 19:07

Dirk Baert

Hello,I found this fungi on a slime mould.I think

23-12-2024 14:37

Josep Torres Josep Torres

Hello.Some tiny globose black ascomata found on De

23-12-2024 18:18

Rot Bojan

Hello!I've been working with this small fungus for

23-12-2024 22:59

Lucian Clanet Lucian Clanet

Hello,I'm trying to find information about the Hyp

21-12-2024 12:45

Marc Detollenaere Marc Detollenaere

Dear Forum,On naked wood of Fagus, I found some ha

24-12-2024 09:02

Charles Aron Charles Aron

Hi All, Recently I found this orange Disco growin

23-12-2024 12:10

Bernard CLESSE Bernard CLESSE

Bonjour à toutes et tous,Pourriez-vous m'aider à

22-12-2024 21:42

Bometon Javier Bometon Javier

Habitat en el suelo, con presencia de Calluna mult

17-12-2024 12:33

Lothar Krieglsteiner Lothar Krieglsteiner

this fluffy anamorph was repeatedly found on decid

« < 1 2 3 4 5 > »
Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
Thierry Blondelle, 04-06-2024 21:26
Thierry BlondelleBonjour,
Je vous soumets cette récolte sur faîne (cupules of Fagus) que j'ai déterminée comme étant  Paeohelotium fagineum d'après la clé de Declercq (est-ce la dernier version pour les Hymenoscyphus ?)
J'ai tout de même quelques interrogations sur mon interprétation de la micro:

-  Je distingue 3 couches succesives sous-hyméniales (une couche d'excipulum hymenial de type intricata, une couche intermédiaire de type porrecta, une couche d'excipulum ectal basale de type globulosa-angularis.

- Un OCI voisin de 2 plutôt que de 0-1

- des spores à 1-2 cellules. Est-ce un critère récurrent ?

Mes observations sont-elles suffisantes et confirment-elles l'espèce ?

Merci pour vos avis.

Salutations

Thierry

  • message #79455
  • message #79455
  • message #79455
  • message #79455
  • message #79455
Hans-Otto Baral, 04-06-2024 23:14
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
P. fagineum is a species with a short stout stipe. The living paraphyses do not contain VBs in your case which excludes a lot of Hymenoscyphi. Important would be to clarfy whether the spores are ejected when non-septate or when septate. If you find living mature asci you will see that. Also iodine reaction and croziers are required.
Thierry Blondelle, 05-06-2024 07:28
Thierry Blondelle
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
Thanks Zotto for these new ways of research.
Thierry Blondelle, 05-06-2024 23:12
Thierry Blondelle
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
Here are new élements of observation
- Spores are two-cells  septated in both living asci and after expulsion.
- IKI+on asci
- For the croziers, i'm not sure. To confirm on the picture.
Can we always consider Hymenoscyphi ?
  • message #79479
  • message #79479
  • message #79479
Hans-Otto Baral, 06-06-2024 08:50
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
The apical ring looks Hymenoscyphus-like, but that type occurs also elsewhere. I see no living asci, we cannot be sure about the expulsion. And for croziers I am similarly uncertain, one needs the cel below, unruptured from the ascus.

My first idea was H. varicosporoides, but I remembered that species only with a short stalk. Now when looking in my folder there are several with long stalks (e.g. 18.II.2015, J. Balda). Also the original description refers to a long-stalked fungus. So I think this is a good option. The fungus has an interesting anamorph adapted to running or standing water.
Thierry Blondelle, 06-06-2024 13:52
Thierry Blondelle
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
Thanks a lot. The fungus rised on beechnuts fallen to the edge of a little stream. This confirm it is a species of damp places.
I am going to try another micros. How to identify living asci ?
Hans-Otto Baral, 06-06-2024 17:17
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
Well, sorry, I wrote this 100x in this forum. Please go to my old homepage, the front page illustrates without words.