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18-12-2025 21:17

Two collections of yellowish discs on bare ground
Pol Debaenst

The identification took me to Byssonectria deformi

15-12-2025 07:09

indet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leaves
Danny Newman Danny Newman

indet. Rutstroemiaceae sp. on unk. fallen leavesMc

19-12-2025 10:10

Peziza vers varia ?
Patrice TANCHAUD

Bonjour, récolte réalisée en milieu dunaire, a

18-12-2025 17:23

Polydesmia fructicola ?
Bruno Coué Bruno Coué

Bonjour,je serais heureux d'avoir votre avis sur c

18-12-2025 18:07

Phaeoisaria like?
Margot en Geert Vullings

These plumes were found on rotten wood.They strong

17-12-2025 18:35

Asexualfungi I : a book announcement
Michel Hairaud Michel Hairaud

Bonjour à tous/Hi to everyone I am passing along

21-11-2025 10:47

Mollisia sp.
François Freléchoux François Freléchoux

Bonjour,Peut-être Mollisia palustris ?Trouvée su

15-12-2025 15:48

Melanospora cf. lagenaria on decaying polypore
Danny Newman Danny Newman

Melanospora cf. lagenaria on old, rotting, fallen

15-12-2025 15:54

Unknown anamorph
Johan Boonefaes Johan Boonefaes

Unknown anamorph found on the ground in coastal sa

15-12-2025 21:11

Pyrenopeziza deunicinata c.f. ??
Hardware Tony Hardware Tony

Small clavate hairs, negative croziers and IKI bb

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Rutstroemia firma ou Rutstroemia alni ?
Bernard CLESSE, 18-02-2022 16:40
Bernard CLESSESur brindille morte de feuillu (non identifié mais peut-être d'aulne glutineux ?) au fond d'une vallée.


Dans l'eau, les spores font (sans les appendices) : 20-24x7-8,5 µm et les asques : 150-181x10-15 µm.


Je n'arrive pas à choisir entre Rutstroemia firma et Rutstroemia alni.

Merci pour vos conseils !

Bernard

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Hans-Otto Baral, 18-02-2022 20:44
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Rutstroemia firma ou Rutstroemia alni ?
Neither of them. I suspect R. bolaris on Carpinus. You must study the ectal excipulum, is it of isodiametrical cells or prismatica?

R. alni has spores *17-24 x 7-9 (matching yours, whereas R. firma has *15-23 x 4.5-6. R. alni occurs with multiguttulate spores as well as with two large and many small LBs. No idea if this has something to say. In R. firma I never saw multiguttulate spores, which are characteristic of R. bolaris.

One reason for R. bolaris is, that you found it now. It is a sprin fungus, though my notes say III-IV. R. alni and R. forma are autumn fungi.

Try to find out the host, with a radial section it is easy to recognize Alnus by the ladder-like perforations that Carpinus does not have.
Bernard CLESSE, 18-02-2022 21:01
Bernard CLESSE
Re : Rutstroemia firma ou Rutstroemia alni ?
Yes Zotto, you are absolutely right. I was too quick in my conclusions and I had forgotten Rutstroemia bolaris which I nevertheless collected several times. Andgelo Mombert also put me back on the right track.

Kind regards,

Bernard
Michel Hairaud, 20-02-2022 21:25
Michel Hairaud
Re : Rutstroemia firma ou Rutstroemia alni ?
Bonsoir, 
Of course I approve R. bolaris . I only want to add that we regularly collect it in Februrary (in West of France) and even earlier than Bernard's find 
Michel
Bernard CLESSE, 20-02-2022 21:30
Bernard CLESSE
Re : Rutstroemia firma ou Rutstroemia alni ?
Grand merci pour ton info sur la phénologie de cette espèce, Michel ! 

Je me rappellerai de cet élément important signalé par Zotto et que tu me confirmes aussi !

Bien amicalement,

Bernard
Michel Hairaud, 20-02-2022 22:15
Michel Hairaud
Re : Rutstroemia firma ou Rutstroemia alni ?
Donc à l'année prochaine même époque, Bernard sur ce forum ? -:) Michel