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Red stromatic pyrenomycete
Ethan Crenson, 19-11-2021 19:23
Hello all,

I'm having trouble identifying a pyrenomycete I collected last week in New York City. I believe that the substrate is Rhus typhina, which was lying on the forest floor of a Bronx park.


The reddish stromata are erumpent through the bark of the substrate. The surface is quite wrinkled and quite deeply sulcate around the ostioles. The ostioles are black and most ejected a large blob of dark spores. The interior tissue is black. Perithecia are embedded at many different depths in the stroma with long necks. The tissue produces red pigments in KOH.


Asci are 123-134 x 11.8-12.5µm. They appear to be bitunicate, or if not, quite thick-walled. IKI-


Spores brown, 1-septate, constricted at the septa. For the most part, the two cells of the spores are equal in size. There appears to be a texture to the spores. Perhaps they are punctate, or maybe they are pitted? 15.5-19.9 x 6.9-9µm. Q= 2.2 N=20


Paraphyses (Pseudoparaphyses?) about 2.5µm wide.


Does anyone recognize this pyreno?


Thanks in advance.


Ethan

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Jacques Fournier, 19-11-2021 22:17
Jacques Fournier
Re : Red stromatic pyrenomycete
Hi Ethan,

Nice fungus. Myrmaecium rubricosum (Fr.: Fr.) Fuckel, formerly a Valsaria.

Cheers,

Jacques
Ethan Crenson, 19-11-2021 22:27
Re : Red stromatic pyrenomycete
Thank you yet again Jacques!  You are amazing!
Ethan Crenson, 19-11-2021 23:16
Re : Red stromatic pyrenomycete
Jacques,

I am reading the paper you co-authored, Valsaria and the Valsariales. Can you tell me what, if anything, in my data or photos rules out Myrmaecium fulvopruinatum?  Since M. fulvopruinatum is more common in the Eastern US and there are many misidentified collections, I'm curious if there's more for me to look at.  And in what way are the ascospores unstable in water?  Do they dissolve?  It's a fascinating genus and I hope to know it better!  Again, thank you for your help.

Ethan
Jacques Fournier, 20-11-2021 15:24
Jacques Fournier
Re : Red stromatic pyrenomycete
you are right, distinguishing both species may be indeed challenging when dealing with aged stromata with dull colours.

The overall yellow tone of stromata of M. fulvopruinatum is usually diagnostic compared with the orange brown tone of M. rubricosum. The reaction to KOH you show is more red than purple, which might fit fulvopruinatum better.

Asci (not ascospores) of M. fulvopruinatum are termed unstable because they frequently dehisce in water, unlike those of M.rubricosum. Ascospores are usually too variable to be reliably diagnostic.

I leave you check the other details until you make your mind and give it a species name.

Good luck!

Jacques
Hermann Voglmayr, 21-11-2021 09:58
Hermann Voglmayr
Re : Red stromatic pyrenomycete
Dear Ethan,
I agree with Jacques that aged Stromata of fulvopruinatum lose the yellow scurf and then mimick rubricosum. According to own observations fulvopruinatum is much more common at least in Europe , and this may be also the case in other temperate areas.
Concerning your collection I assume it is fulvopruinatum as the two small stromata clearly have a yellowish hue,  a feature I haven't seen in rubricosum.
Best wishes Hermann
Jacques Fournier, 21-11-2021 14:29
Jacques Fournier
Re : Red stromatic pyrenomycete
Dear Hermann and Ethan,

you are obviously both right about fulvopruinatum. I missed this photo showing the yellow scurf.

Ethan, you just need now to find rubricosum for comparison????

Jacques
Ethan Crenson, 22-11-2021 00:10
Re : Red stromatic pyrenomycete
Hermann and Jacques,

Thank you! When I read the description and looked at the photos of M. fulvopruinatum I felt a bit stuck. An asco that loses one of its diagnostic features with age can present obvious problems. But Hermann, you have sharp eyes! I will go back and examine my collection and photograph them showing this yellow pruinose dusting. 

Regards,

Ethan