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"Leptosphaeria" cf. acuta on Urtica dioica
Christoph Hahn, 18-04-2020 01:44
Christoph Hahn
Dear all,

I collected (15.04.2020) a dry stem of Urtica dioica (var. longifolia) with tiny black dots and young Aporhytisma urticae in Mammendorf, Bavaria, Germany. I was curious, if the tiny black dots could be Phoma acuta (i. e. Leptosphaeria doliolum) or Phoma piskorzii (i. e. "Leptosphaeria" acuta). And it's so extremely dry at the moment, I was glad to find even theses black dots ;-).

Well, I was surprised to see a lot of asci, many spores. So, the dots are Perithecia, o.k. They are immersed in the host tissue, just the tips are visible - see first figure as attachment.

"Leptosphaeria acuta" begins immersed, so that shouldn't be a problem. But... the spores are quite big: 50.5-56-62 x 6.75-7.2-7.75 µm (water, alive) and with 9-13 (!) septae, turning somehow greenish in Lugol (second figrue "b" alive in water as b/w, better contrast).

Asci up to 160 x 13 µm (water, alive, second figure "c"), bitunicate, with basal crozier, inamyloid - but plasma in Lugol red, so there should be some gylcogene in the plasma (second figure "d" - both parts of "d" are in Lugol).

Width of Paraphyses at the base up to 3.5 µm, tapering to 1.5 µm, septate, branched.

Excipulum width up to 30 µm (fig. 2 "e"), excipulum cells not reacting red in Lugol.

Why "Leptosphaeria" cf. acuta? The spores have a lot of septae. And they are longer than expected. And I thought, the excipulum should react red, too, in Lugol, not only the Plasma of young Asci. I am not sure, "Leptosphaeria" acuta could be a small aggregate.

So I would like to ask, if my doubts were a kind of splitting paranoia or justified.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Christoph
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Christoph Hahn, 18-04-2020 01:48
Christoph Hahn
Re : "Leptosphaeria" cf. acuta on Urtica dioica
Sorry, wrong picture (fig. 1). So here is the complete plate...
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Alain GARDIENNET, 18-04-2020 07:36
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : "Leptosphaeria" cf. acuta on Urtica dioica

Hi,


Lennart Holm, which studied a lot of Leptosphaeria species,  gave : 45-54 x 4,5-7 µm, 8-13 septate. It could fit almost  well.


No idea concerning Lugol reaction.


Alain

Christoph Hahn, 18-04-2020 21:31
Christoph Hahn
Re : "Leptosphaeria" cf. acuta on Urtica dioica
Dear Alain,

thanks a lot!

Greetings,

Christoph