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17-09-2020 11:07

Joop van der Lee Joop van der Lee

Normally Pilobolus are found on horse dung but thi

01-10-2020 14:40

Malcolm  Greaves Malcolm Greaves

A colleague asked me to look at this Trichoglossum

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Andgelo Mombert Andgelo Mombert

Bonsoir, Sur branche morte décortiquée de feuil

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Andgelo Mombert Andgelo Mombert

Bonsoir, Sur branche morte d'Acer sp. Ascospore

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In this place I have seen lots of these growing du

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Castillo Joseba Castillo Joseba

De esta mañana en una rama de  FagusPensé en Ca

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Per Vetlesen

Hi,This one was found more than a year ago on a 2.

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Castillo Joseba Castillo Joseba

De ayer en  rama de FagusPensé en Pseudohydnum g

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Pilobolus kleinii
Joop van der Lee, 17-09-2020 11:07
Joop van der LeeNormally Pilobolus are found on horse dung but this one was on cow dung.

Immature species start with a dark yellow sporangium later changing to a combination of olive-green with a black top.

The top of the cap of the sporangium is solid black when young but it will develope a pattern when mature.

The olive-green underbelly of the sporangium containing the sporangiospores will retract into the cap and the underside will fold itself to hold the spores.

Spores are oval and measure 13.8-14.3x9.0-9.5 um

Joop
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Malcolm Greaves, 17-09-2020 19:23
Malcolm  Greaves
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Pilobolus kleinii fits for me.
Hans de Jong, 17-09-2020 23:52
Hans de Jong
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Hallo Joop.
Leuke vondst. 
Net als Malcolm Creaves denk ik dat het Pilobolus kleinii is. Deze soort is eerder door mij ook in Schinveld gevonden op mest van Schotse Hooglanders en in Eijsden op mest van Galoway runderen. En ook Riet van Oosten heeft deze soort recent gevonden. 
Deze vondsten zijn o.a. gedetermineerd met behulp van de determinatiesleutel van Malcom Greaves, die deze determinaties eerder ook heeft bevestigd.
Zie de kinks naar waarnemingen.nl 
https://waarneming.nl/observation/199432367
https://waarneming.nl/observation/199700933/
https://waarneming.nl/observation/199739610/
Vriendelijke groetHans de Jong.
Joop van der Lee, 18-09-2020 09:35
Joop van der Lee
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Hello Malcolm,

I will have a look at previous findings from a few years back.
The pattern on top of the cap has not drawn my attention so far so I will check if it was there before.
So far the development of the spores collected in the lower olive-green part of the sporangium and retracting in the cap which was then closed by a folding cap bottom was surprising to see.
I did not see the folding with P. oedipus but the olive-green part was thicker in this case as you can see on the photo compared with photo no 4 of this topic.

Greetings,

Joop
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Malcolm Greaves, 18-09-2020 09:53
Malcolm  Greaves
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Hi Joop
I have never noticed this so couldn’t say whether it is of any help towards getting an id.
Mal
Joop van der Lee, 21-09-2020 19:27
Joop van der Lee
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Hello Malcolm,

This is what is looks like in different angles on mature sporangia instead of just the pattern on immature sporangia like the one above.

This partitular patterns is mentioned in Researches on fungi volume VI, page 185/186 but related to P. crystallinus and that is not the case for this species according to the spore size of P. kleinii.
P. kleinii has another pattern as showed on page 187
Futhermore they wrote that the pattern developes on discharged sporangia as they dry up and flatten down, but these sporangia were still connected to their sporangiophore.

Joop


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Malcolm Greaves, 21-09-2020 21:24
Malcolm  Greaves
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Have you a copy of that article?
Thanks Mal
Joop van der Lee, 22-09-2020 08:23
Joop van der Lee
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
I will send you the complete documention.

Check your mail, in total you should have 2 books and 4 documents.

By the way this is what I photographed yesterday investigating P. oedipus.

I accidently removed the sporangium from the sporangiophore without damaging the latter and so exposing the columella of the sporangiophore.



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Blasco Rafael, 22-09-2020 09:15
Blasco Rafael
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Hola Joop.
Podria enviar tambien la documentacion
Gracias y un saludo
Rfaael
Malcolm Greaves, 22-09-2020 09:16
Malcolm  Greaves
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Thanks Joop.
Joop van der Lee, 22-09-2020 10:55
Joop van der Lee
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Has been send  Rafael.


Saludo,

Joop
Blasco Rafael, 22-09-2020 12:02
Blasco Rafael
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Gracias Joop
Rafael
Hans de Jong, 22-09-2020 22:22
Hans de Jong
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Hallo Joop,
Zou je mij die informatie ook willen doen toekomen?
Alvast dankHans
Joop van der Lee, 23-09-2020 13:18
Joop van der Lee
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Komt er aan Henk.
Hans de Jong, 23-09-2020 20:43
Hans de Jong
Re : Unknown Pilobolus
Heel erg bedankt Joop.
Groet
Hans