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12-10-2015 20:07

Lothar Krieglsteiner Lothar Krieglsteiner

... found in the Bavarian forest, on a decorticate

07-10-2015 19:23

Tapia Fidel Tapia Fidel

I request the following literature: Cain, R. F. 

13-10-2015 13:55

Kosonen Timo Kosonen Timo

Bonjour,This handsome +- immature Lachnaceae (righ

12-10-2015 20:11

Elisabeth Stöckli

Sur terre nue (dans un prés à 1'500m), apothéci

12-10-2015 05:25

Danny Newman Danny Newman

Greetings AscoFrance! Here is a curious discomyce

12-10-2015 14:38

Jean-Louis JALLA Jean-Louis JALLA

Bonjour à tousJ'ai récolté, sur excrément d'he

12-10-2015 21:55

Lepista Zacarias

Hi everyone,I think this fungus, growing on the th

04-10-2015 14:09

Ueli Graf Ueli Graf

Hallo,ist das Peziza apiculata? Durchmesser 12 mm

18-11-2014 18:37

Chris Yeates Chris Yeates

Bonsoir tousI have collected a Rubus fruticosus ag

10-10-2015 20:09

Elisabeth Stöckli

Bonsoir, Sur bois de Pinus (tourbière), apothéc

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ascomycete on thin Picea twig from Norway
Lothar Krieglsteiner, 01-12-2022 12:46
Lothar Krieglsteinerfound on 8.7.2022, on the margin of National Park of Bjafjella, on a thin twig of Picea about 1,5 m high above the ground on a still attached twig. The asomata were astonishingly soft and easy to squash - as I was first thinking of collecting a pyrenomycete. The ascomata do not look like apothecia to me (?). The spores I measured about 15-18/7-8 µm. 
Can somebody provide me with a hint?
Yours, Lothar
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Zdenek Palice, 01-12-2022 21:52
Zdenek Palice
Re : ascomycete on thin Picea twig from Norway
Hallo.

Could this perhaps be something around Mycowinteria (Protothelenella) anodonta? I do not know this species but found this "semilichen" in literature as an adept in the following paper: Sherwood-Pike M. & Boise J. (1986): Studies in lignicolous ascomycetes: Xylopezia and Mycowinteria. - Brittonia, 38(1): 35-44.

Allegedly it produces occassional longitudinal septa at ascospores that should be 3-5septate. The size fits. Slightly amyloid hymenium and broad amyloid tube in ascus apex are other features according to the authors. 

Otherwise it reminds me Exarmidium that you surely know much better than me
 (called as Xylopezia by the authors mentioned above) 

Best wishes

Zdenek

Lothar Krieglsteiner, 01-12-2022 22:55
Lothar Krieglsteiner
Re : ascomycete on thin Picea twig from Norway
Hello Zdenek,
thank you very much for your proposal and for the file. It is a good trap and I will see if I can follow it successfullly.
Best regards, Lothar
P.S. Exarmidium looks different in my opinion, but is similar in some respects, surely.
Lothar Krieglsteiner, 14-01-2023 17:54
Lothar Krieglsteiner
Re : ascomycete on thin Picea twig from Norway
Hello Zdenek,

I think you had a false opinion of me: "that you surely know much better than me" (Exarmidium). I now think that I found E. inclusum (Xylopezia inclusa). 

Because:
1. There is not a trace of an amyloid reaction in the asci (and not in the hymenium) - with Melzer and Baral, no difference.
2. I do not find a longitudinal septum, none.
3. The spores are not so much pointed but more rounded, as I already showed before. 

So - I think Exarmidium inclusum is a good hint. I found it repeatedly in the Bavarian forest, but after the first few examinations it was only determined macroscopically from then on. 
And - it was found in fresh state, more reddish brown.

The one from Norway is black, but fully dried out, and maybe more ripe.

So I learned something again ...

Thanks again for your help!

Yours, Lothar

Zdenek Palice, 15-01-2023 15:54
Zdenek Palice
Re : ascomycete on thin Picea twig from Norway
Hallo Lothar,

good to know that your specimen is Exarmidium in the end. I was not sure any way. E. inclusum seems to be a plurivorous species. Last year I saw it also on dried stems of the fern (Athyrium) in a herbarium specimen from Sweden.

all the best. 

Zdenek
Martin Bemmann, 15-01-2023 17:50
Martin Bemmann
Re : ascomycete on thin Picea twig from Norway
Many years ago I made a collection that was identified by Zotto as an Exarmidium (documentation attached), then called E. cf. diaphanum. E. diaphanum is for Aptroot 1998 (Massarina): 140 a synonym for E. inclusum (attached as well).

The ascocarps of my collection were way more light brownish, not black. But this can be due to a more mature and dry state of Lothar's collection.

Regards

Martin
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